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Fuck, why did you come back? You hateful little bigot. We don't hate America, or Americans, we just think that GWB is a retard and that this war is fucking ridiculous.
Save that crap for someone stupid enough to fall for it. You're a perverted little marxist who thinks your crap smells like roses.

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THIS IS WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU ACCEPT THEIR REALITY
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hollow earth, haha hittie is hiding down there.. a bit with a banjo.

george bush is just some.. tool. as with all politics. then the politics are tools for corporations, and the corporations are tools for the stockholders. and the stockholders are sociopaths with illumanti-esque grandeur delusion. fuckit
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I love America! The beautiful blessings of freedom we were given is enough to bring you to tears! I could have been born in a 3rd world country, but God gave me the gift of being born here. But my leader is the Beast of the end times and not teh God-fearing man he proported himself to be. If it is you, glad to see you back!
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The Allied forces consisted of more than the USA. The USA only joined WW2 because they wanted to protect their own interests (and they did more than that after the war ended)- hardly the altruistic heroes who wanted to stamp out tyranny.
Not really, they're was some genuine altruism there as well, or at least common feeling with the UK, hence lend/lease, but remember USA had a socialist president then.
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Old 04-15-2006, 04:58 PM
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...but remember USA had a socialist president then.
Now this is someone who appears to know what the hell they are talking about.
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Iran has allies. Iraq didn't at the time. The U.S will have to deal with a lot of harsh consequences if and when they decide to attack.

I'm wondering whether or not the Arab League would want to do something if this happens. Probably not, but then again Iran promised rewards. I'm sure the Arab states in North Africa would take them up on it. They're already corrupt, so they haven't much to loose. Mauritania's leader is big on his military.

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I believe shock and awe tactics and a quick deep ground forces thrust might be able to succesfully and reasonably painlessly (for the USA and allies), remove Iran's nuclear program. The bit the USA can't do is occupation and that wouldn't be necessary.

Do we know, geographically, where Irans nuclear program is?
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Not really, they're was some genuine altruism there as well, or at least common feeling with the UK, hence lend/lease, but remember USA had a socialist president then.
True. There was that part to it, but considering the profits that the USA gained from the war, and considering what happened following the war with the preservation of social and economic fascist structures in Japan and West Germany, it wasn't entirely down to altruism. Obviously that is to be expected, however the 'knight in shining armour/big brother protects everyone' image that is presented does tend to irk me.
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Their army is made up of millions, as opposed to the thousands that Saddam had. The population itlsef is 70 fucking million, that's 5 times less than Iraq's. If anyone thinks this is gonna be a piece of cake, they gotta be kidding.
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Their army is made up of millions, as opposed to the thousands that Saddam had. The population itlsef is 70 fucking million, that's 5 times less than Iraq's. If anyone thinks this is gonna be a peace of cake, they gotta be kidding.
Not a piece of cake, but much more possible than an occupation. It's much easier to take ground than keep hold of it. Invasion of Iraq was a piece of cake for US and they could have formed up much greater forces for it, but chose not to. Imagine if all they had had to do was topple that statue and then leave. How many losses, a few dozen?

It might also be a good excuse to leave Iraq afterwards, infact they might have no choice. Iran might restart Iran-Iraq, but Iran and Shia Iraq vs USA vs Sunni in a nation size Beruit situation.

Edit: remember Iraq's army in desert storm was an awesome size, but useless.
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I believe shock and awe tactics and a quick deep ground forces thrust might be able to succesfully and reasonably painlessly (for the USA and allies), remove Iran's nuclear program. The bit the USA can't do is occupation and that wouldn't be necessary.

Do we know, geographically, where Irans nuclear program is?
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Iran has allies. Iraq didn't at the time. The U.S will have to deal with a lot of harsh consequences if and when they decide to attack.
Praise be to Allah, Most Merciful and Wise. You sound like a damned jihadist mouthpiece. Oh. That's right. You are.

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I'm wondering whether or not the Arab League would want to do something if this happens. Probably not, but then again Iran promised rewards. I'm sure the Arab states in North Africa would take them up on it. They're already corrupt, so they haven't much to loose. Mauritania's leader is big on his military.
Iran has no allies. They have countries who are using them until it gets too hot, but they have no allies. The noose has tightened around Iran. They feel the heat from the friction of that hemp on their neck, and are desperately grabbing at anything. They know the clock is ticking.

tick...tick...tick...

For what it's worth, circum, er, exorcism, I feel your pain.
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Their army is made up of millions, as opposed to the thousands that Saddam had. The population itlsef is 70 fucking million, that's 5 times less than Iraq's. If anyone thinks this is gonna be a piece of cake, they gotta be kidding.
Hussein called himself the Sword of Islam. He had the 4th largest army in the world.

Don't worry, circ, it will be a piece of cake.
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Praise be to Allah, Most Merciful and Wise. You sound like a damned jihadist mouthpiece. Oh. That's right. You are.

Iran has no allies. They have countries who are using them until it gets too hot, but they have no allies. The noose has tightened around Iran. They feel the heat from the friction of that hemp on their neck, and are desperately grabbing at anything. They know the clock is ticking.

tick...tick...tick...

For what it's worth, circum, er, exorcism, I feel your pain.
Are you insane? Iran has plenty of allies. Chavez has been really friendly with Ahmednijad lately, too. Aww, does that make you angry? They have the nuclear technology that Iraq has been dreaming of. You're already too late - they have been working on their military equipment since the 80's. Send your sons to this war, Ted. I will laugh the day the Iranians decide to send you their ashes.

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