ihate scientology
it ruins all alien theories
by design?haha
it goes back tolike atlantisy stuff
nd potential suppression and his main goal was essentially to trascend physical reality
but like most if not all "leaders" he was installed in power and then manipulated by playing onis prejudices
sowhatevaa
but yeah essentially that is the ubermensch
humans complete with supressed psychic powuhz
i cant figureout the wholewhy the jews thing
and wyy the aryans

Yeah, i know what you mean, Hitler was a wet dream for the traditional elites. I think he believed he had actually transcended physical reality - and who knows? Maybe he did, he was after all big on the occult. He was never a 'superman' though - at least not Nietzsche's 'superman'. 'Super-ego' maybe. He was a nationalist, so it's sort of ironic considering Nietzsche's general attitude towards Germans.

All in all though it's safe to say 'Hitler = twat'.

There have been counterprotests during neo-nazi demonstrations here. It is something I absolutely support.

The last time it happened, the KKK and the Nazis showed up with about fifty members, and there were over one-thousand people present to oppose them.

If you have a specific protest or rally going on to oppose or support a specific cause, you can bet your ass that both sides will be present...that's how it works.

YES.

this is really important. neo-nazi rallies MUST be stopped when they happen. we have to undermine their confidence to show their faces on the streets. here in melbourne the only way that fascists have been stopped from organizing was to picket their meetings. they tried to open up a nazi bookstore here in the suburbs but because so many people picketed it, it was forced to close down. because there is no sizeable left here in australia, the political climate can easily shift to the right with morons like howard in power, who whip up nationalism to gain support for the war in iraq. can you imagine the audience who would be suseptible to fascist ideas if we just stood by & let them organize?

there were race riots here in australia last year, thanks to john howard's 'war on terror' & scapegoating of muslims, in which lebanese people who were merely walking down the street got beaten up by 5000 thugs. if only there was a bigger left in australia so we could have had a counter-protest on the day!

& actually it has nothing to do with 'free speech'. racists need to be stopped, otherwise they have the confidence to organize & commit hate crimes. this isn't a question of censorship but rather the politics behind the movement. neo-nazi marches are way more than 'speech' normally violence accompanies them anyway. & frankly, i don't think that racist scum ever have a right to speak in public, & will happily turn up to shout them down; their views already get a hearing anyway by the mainstream press, who publish photos of mohammed & demonize muslims as terror threats. by refusing to take a side one way or another because of the ridiculous liberal 'free speech' argument, you end up supporting them by saying they have a right to organize, which they don't.

what utter misuse of the word 'fascist'.

they just need a little info
its misdirected

this is not true, most nazis follow fascism, which is an organized political ideology. it's basically a middle class ideology centred around empoweing the petite-bourgeoisie & smashing up the working class.

to dismiss nazis as being 'ignorant' is problematic, because it kinda implies that they're not serious about their politics, when they are. they know exactly whose class interests they're out to protect; and it sure as fuck ain't ours.

That's one of the things that makes it so horrific - their seriousness. I read an interview with Nick Griffin who heads the British National Party (British Nazi Party, basically), the majority of it was your common or garden fascist rhetoric, but there was also plenty of hatred, mostly directed against Muslims. He was recently cleared of inciting racial hatred, he was acquitted but he's now facing more charges. It's quite scary how 'focused' they are - that is, focused on the distorted history they like to believe. I guess ignorance would be an excuse, but when they know full well that they're advocating ethnic cleansing and are proud of said fact, that's scary.

It's deadly serious, and ignorant, at the same time. It's deep psychological fucked upness (the ignorance bit, ignorance of self, mostly) turned into political idealogy (the serious clever bit).

I love saying 'mostly' in that cartman voice.

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it aint about class

thats a lower level division
totally obselete

im talking about the racism factor i forgot "national socialist"
theyre still ignorant wether they know" about their little set of preset beliefs or not

Neo-Nazis disgust me.
A friend of mine was stabbed to death a few weeks ago by one.
So there's been a lot of anti-Neo-Nazi stuff going on around where I live.

Yes and it has sod all to do with my position on freedom of speech.
And KKB, what are you on about? of course Nazis oppose ideologies - ideologies that conflict with Nazism. I guess all but the apathetic are fascists if htat's defined by whether you oppose an ideology or not.

well, the city used a legal loophole to keep the jerks from coming. hopefully they'll stay home, and not come anyway. and this measure is supported by the crazy church and state people, don't want anything to do with the nazis either.

City denies rally permit
Christian group searching for alternative spots
By Elizabeth Putnam THE NEWS-TIMES

DANBURY — Organizers of a rally promoting religious rights must find a new location after Danbury officials pulled their permit Thursday to hold the event on public property downtown.

City officials asked members of Minutemen United, an Ohio-based Christian organization, to relocate their rally from the Danbury Green after The News-Times reported that a neo-Nazi group called the Grey Wolves plans to attend the event, which is scheduled for Tuesday.

The city has the right to deny permits for safety reasons.

"We asked the (religious) organization to locate the event to a private property so they can regulate who can attend," said Danbury Mayor Mark Boughton.

Members of Minutemen United, which is not affiliated with the neo-Nazi group, are worried that the Grey Wolves might derail their plans for a solemn event, but they still plan to hold the rally.

As of Thursday night, the Minutemen United group had not found another site for the rally.

"Minutemen United is diametrically opposed to any association with this white supremacist, neo-Nazi organization. We are coming to Danbury to pray God's blessing upon Danbury and to bring attention to the wrongful application of the separation of church and state," Dave Daubenmire, Minutemen United founder and director, said in a news release.

Meanwhile, law enforcement authorities said Thursday they have never heard of the neo-Nazi Grey Wolves.

After The News-Times put information about the rally on its Web site Wednesday, a man who gave his name as Rick Renage and who claimed to be a member of a Nazi group contacted the newspaper and said in a phone conversation and in an e-mail that he was bringing three busloads of people to support Minutemen United's cause.

Rick spelled his last name at Renage in a phone conversation with the News-Times but spelled it Regado in an e-mail that followed. Law enforcement officials said there were indications that Renage has ties to Fairfield.

Danbury police contacted state and federal law enforcement officials looking for information about the Grey Wolves and Renage to prepare officials for the rally. However, no information has been found, Danbury Detective Lt. Tom Michael said Thursday afternoon.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, a civil rights group known for its victories against white supremacists and its tracking of extremist groups across the country, also could not confirm whether the Grey Wolves is a hate group.

Attempts by The News-Times to contact Renage on Thursday were unsuccessful.

But in an e-mail sent to The News-Times, he wrote the following:

"I am the local spokesman for this society. We are not some super large Kabal! We have approximately 200 people in three states that are active members. We dress in black pants, black boots, red sox with black jackets with the swastika branded in the back. We just want to show our solidarity with the churches who are sponsoring this activity. I personally am not looking for any confrontations, but if we are provoked we will react very strongly!" Renage wrote.

White supremacist groups are not new to Connecticut. The extremist group Connecticut White Wolves has grown over the past few years. The Stratford-based group describes itself as a "white nationalist skinhead organization."

In 2000, authorities traced a Newtown post office box to the World Church of the Creator, another supremacist group.

Rich Kendall, spokesman for the rally, said Minutemen United will hold the rally whether the Grey Wolves attend or not and still wants to hold the event in Danbury because of the city's historic significance.

After the Revolutionary War, local government still had Congregationalist preachers on the payroll, and in protest, the Danbury Baptist Association wrote a letter in 1801 to President Thomas Jefferson asking him to help.

In response, Jefferson wrote a letter that included the phrase "wall of separation between church and state."

Minutemen United promotes religious liberties and believes the nation's founding fathers intended to keep religious principles in government.

Rally organizers expect more than 500 people to attend.

Contact Elizabeth Putnam at eputnam@newstimes.com or (203) 731-3411.

i wouldn't because those muthas are fucking scary.
they're not to big on us yellow folks.

well, not that i'm some hard ass or anything, but what are they going to do to me? is some dude going to punch a girl in the face in front of other people? he'll get destroyed. i'm not afraid of much of anyone, especially out in public in the middle of the day. call me foolish, but mid-day is not when my sense of self-security gets heightened.

That makes me upset that those people are in my state and that there are people who still try to be Nazis.

yeah but i'm already a paranoid girl. if i went, i know i'd feel a little less safe at night by myself.

i think it's maybe worse that they're coming from so far away. this shit doesn't happen here. we just don't have it here. i mean ct is like anywhere else, i'm sure bigots abound, but we don't have redneck rallies going on yearly, like a lot of places do.

yer i was drunk, i meant more 'ignorant' or 'stupid'.

but yes a good deal of neo-nazi's are just fodder & thugs which hardly pose a threat to the world ala WW2.

true national socialism is an intrigueing concept which you can't deny, ultimately is about taking humanity to a new level of unity & cohesion. If you can put aside the fact that you're a human for a minute and analyse it from that non-objective stance.

Like imagine if aliens turned up in the future, and Hitler had have been able to carry out what he did. They'd probably just be like "meh, k". Whereas we're like all enraged and shit because we dont want to admit that we're the inferior ones who'd probably be exterminated LMFAO fuck knows i would, i've said it before i would of had to have been blowing Goering and 2 timing with himmler to survive that administration

My two cents protests from a reasonable, but visible distance and watch out for people on your own side trying to march you into a physical
confrontation with you unaware. Go with friends, and stick together.