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10-28-2008, 08:47 AM
|  | Married Misanthropist | | Join Date: Apr 2006
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Originally Posted by dirtyplotte  you live in austin right? oh for a day in austin | Texas? Nah, I'm one of those eastcoast elites.
__________________ "How wrong it is for a woman to expect the man to build the world she wants, rather than to create it herself."
"I postpone death by living, by suffering, by error, by risking, by giving, by losing."
"I will not be just a tourist in the world of images, just watching images passing by which I cannot live in, make love to, possess as permanent sources of joy and ecstasy. " -from the goddess that is Anaïs Nin |
10-28-2008, 08:49 AM
| | Married Misanthropist | | Join Date: Apr 2006
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Originally Posted by Ophiel
Still: VOTE ANTI-CHRIST.
Cuz really, if the anti-Christ is going to run any country, would you rather it be the country you're in, or the country you ain't?
| You do have a point.
__________________ "How wrong it is for a woman to expect the man to build the world she wants, rather than to create it herself."
"I postpone death by living, by suffering, by error, by risking, by giving, by losing."
"I will not be just a tourist in the world of images, just watching images passing by which I cannot live in, make love to, possess as permanent sources of joy and ecstasy. " -from the goddess that is Anaïs Nin |
10-28-2008, 08:59 AM
|  | Inventor of the Rapedar | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: nTown, UK
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Originally Posted by fen99us You do have a point. | As good old Pratchett said, when it all goes to shit, a lot of people will want to make it very clear that they weren't on the wrong side (the one that lost).
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10-29-2008, 12:51 AM
|  | Rhapsody | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: 100 Club
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| | | I would like to point out that I was trying to bait Thumper into a religious debate but I FAILED. So stop neg repping me already, faggots. |
10-29-2008, 10:56 AM
|  | Occam's chainsaw | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: goin down in a blaze of glory
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Originally Posted by ironhills Strange how they never think it might have been Ronnie Reagan.
Hmm. | actually, I've heard this about him too. I vaguely recall someone citing this as the reason he survived the assassination attempt.
btw, I'd like to know the answer to Bill Maher's excellent question: what's the difference between the anti-christ and satan? does the anti-christ work for satan? are they cousins? I NEED TO UNDERSTAND. Quote:
Originally Posted by Amity Uh, Jesus was a Jew.
Islam started in the 7th Century. | Apparently it was really started by Abraham and Mohammed "restarted" it or something. But still, I used this point to argue how ridiculous this assertion was with my cousin. That's right. How I would love to say that this is the first I've heard of this, but it's not. For everyone's amusement, the text of the email she sent me is below. Lol @ their thinking the american people have "lost their power of reasoning" based on the fact that they don't believe something that's in the bible. (talking snakes? you betcha!) and also @ their assertion that being a liberal democrat is the same as being an extremist.
you should also know that the font was all red except for the "muslim male extremist" part, but I just don't feel like doing all of that.
I'm scared for Obama.  Quote: A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine that America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves.
Pause a moment, reflect back.
These events are actual events from history..
They really happened!!!
Do you remember?
1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by a Muslim male extremist.
2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim maleextremists.
3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim male extremists.
4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim maleextremists.
5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim male extremists.
6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim male extremists.
7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens , and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim maleextremists. ( remember the pilot of this flight was from Richmond , MO )
8. In 1988 , Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed byMuslim male extremists.
9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by Muslim male extremists.
10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim maleextremists.
11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by Muslim male extremists.
12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim male extremists.
13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by-- you guessed it-- Muslim male extremists.
Now, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people...Absolutely No Profiling!
They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males alone lest they be guilty of profiling.
NOW…According to The Book of Revelations:
The Anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40's, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, he will destroy everything.
And Now:
For the award winning Act of Stupidity Of all times the People of America want to elect, to the most Powerful position on the face of the Planet -- The Presidency of the United states of America ... A Male of Muslim descent who is the most extremely liberal Senator in Congress (in other words an extremist) and in his 40's.
Have the American People completely lost their Minds, or just their Power of Reason ???
I'm sorry, but I refuse to take a chance on the 'unknown'
Candidate Obama...
Let's send this to as many people as we can so that the
Gloria Aldreds and other powerful attorneys, along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselves -- if they have any such sense.
As the writer of the award winning story ' Forest Gump' so
Aptly put it,
'Stupid Is As Stupid Does'
Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or
Media outlet...do it!
Or again. . . Just delete if you disagree. |  |
10-29-2008, 11:11 AM
| | Inventor of the Rapedar | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: nTown, UK
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btw, I'd like to know the answer to Bill Maher's excellent question: what's the difference between the anti-christ and satan? does the anti-christ work for satan? are they cousins? I NEED TO UNDERSTAND.
| I would assume it's the same difference as the difference between God and Christ. But then, theology is a bit wacky, so it probably isn't.
re: the big round robin thing: Quote:
Now, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people...Absolutely No Profiling!
They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males alone lest they be guilty of profiling.
| The second paragraph totally contradicts itself; if airport security staff left Muslim Males alone they would be profiling. That's ignoring the absolute reality that anyone who isn't white is a fuckload more likely to be stopped and searched in just about any situation, but hey. And as for the "85 year old congressman with a metal hip", he would've been stopped and searched anyway! Quote:
And Now:
For the award winning Act of Stupidity Of all times the People of America want to elect, to the most Powerful position on the face of the Planet -- The Presidency of the United states of America ... A Male of Muslim descent who is the most extremely liberal Senator in Congress (in other words an extremist) and in his 40's.
| Fun fact: even if Obama outright admitted publicly that he is the Anti-Christ, voting for him would still not be the stupidest thing the American public has ever done. Quote: |
The Anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40's, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, he will destroy everything.
| Can anyone confirm that this is mostly bollocks? Quote:
Let's send this to as many people as we can so that the
Gloria Aldreds and other powerful attorneys, along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselves -- if they have any such sense.
| Lol @ the aim of this: after all that, we find out that all they actually want to do is to make an attorney feel ashamed of herself?
Good luck with that.
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10-29-2008, 11:26 AM
| | Occam's chainsaw | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: goin down in a blaze of glory
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Originally Posted by Ophiel Fun fact: even if Obama outright admitted publicly that he is the Anti-Christ, voting for him would still not be the stupidest thing the American public has ever done. | ha. and agree. Quote:
Originally Posted by Ophiel Can anyone confirm that this is mostly bollocks? | Like I mentioned earlier, I told her I thought it was pretty absurd since modern Islam didn't begin until well after the bible had been written. she didn't write back of course, but apparently from my quick look at revelations in wikipedia, every religion interprets it differently according to their own agenda (fancy that!) I saw no exact mention of a Muslim male but really couldn't be arsed to look too much into it. btw, I also advised her that taking the bible literally was probably a bad idea.
but yes, I'd like to know the answer to this question too. not so badly that I'm going to go read revelations and see for myself. at least not yet. |
10-29-2008, 01:12 PM
| | Inventor of the Rapedar | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: nTown, UK
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Originally Posted by herekitty ha. and agree. | [insert your own George W. Bush joke here] Quote:
Originally Posted by herekitty Like I mentioned earlier, I told her I thought it was pretty absurd since modern Islam didn't begin until well after the bible had been written. she didn't write back of course, but apparently from my quick look at revelations in wikipedia, every religion interprets it differently according to their own agenda (fancy that!) I saw no exact mention of a Muslim male but really couldn't be arsed to look too much into it. btw, I also advised her that taking the bible literally was probably a bad idea. | It's more the fact that, even if you absolutely should take the Bible 100% literally, she's still an oaf.
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10-29-2008, 01:37 PM
|  | whirling dervisher | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spin me
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| | | Self-fulfilling prophecy
Changes are in process. The nature of the universe is much about change. George Bush was responsible to make certain progress towards such ends. In October (October surprise) Mr Bush ushered in socialism (corporate guarantees at taxpayer expense). This occurred at the end of his term, handing a difficult situation and problem for the next President. By "self-fulfilling prophecy" and demographics, 2012, at the end of the next term, final changes will be instituted. Follow IMF activity and policies if you want the Bigger Picture. The world's problems are about distribution rather than abundance.
"The great disparity in the world is not due to a lack of abundance but to a lack of vision"
~~carefulcarpenter
Contemplation and meditation have value. There is much more going on than the rational mind can grasp alone. Fear is the enemy of change, yet in so many ways fear becomes a dominant effect in the lives of rational-minded thinkers. Love dissolves fear. True leaders will usher in changes without great panic or calamity.
Relax and seek peace. We are all brothers and sisters of the same spiritual parent. The greater source of intelligence and creative solution comes from within. Balance is also important, therefore don't let others do your thinking for you, but fear-mongering is a tactic which distracts your ability to go within and discover the real kingdom of humanity.
Muslim does NOT mean enemy; nor does Christian mean friend. Those who create chaos seek power; and those who want power create chaos and mayhem in the mind.
You are already free. You simply haven't noticed because you are still seeking external glories. The world is on the cusp of great and wonderful change. Fear not and you shall find life.
"If one is not giving it, one is not getting it"
~~carefulcarpenter
Marerophilia
The carefulcarpenter is not rich because he has attained great financial wealth or social success, but because he creates abundance for others; a creator of wealth. A person is responsible for their own happiness and wealth. Taking rather than giving makes one suspicious and cautious. Generosity of spirit increases one's abundance. Hoarding resources and dominating spaces creates the repressed fear that others will come after their share. But by creating wealth and giving of one's abundant internal energy increases one's positive state of mind and happiness. The carefulcarpenter simply seeks out those willing and respectful enough to accept the wealth he has to give. It's much harder to find a kind receiver than to find a taker.
~~Sophia_
"Takers (the dead) rob you of energy; whereas, a gracious receiver is like a kind nurse, a healer of the soul, and an abundant supply of energy, like the sun"
~~carefulcarpenter
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Marerophilia:
A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is;
Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown;
Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter
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10-29-2008, 02:02 PM
| | I still like rainbows | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Happy Ending Land
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| | | No "intellectual" who has lived in or visited the US can possibly read this thread without wailing and gnashing teeth. To most of the freethinking world, it's inconceivable that stupidity and superstition on this level can still be allowed to fester in any nation. and yet surprisingly that in itself is a testament to the progress of nations in tolerance for freedoms of speech and religion and political ideology. The American people (if not the whole world and human race) face problems today that are much more dire than any biblical prophecy. The bible talks about a beast rising from the sea...I think a worldwide famine caused by out of control solar exposure would be a slightly worse outcome. The bible talks about dying, soldiers in Iraq live it and experience it. The horrors of the bible are a small matter compared to the horrors of the present. |
10-29-2008, 02:19 PM
| | whirling dervisher | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spin me
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Originally Posted by barkstonwill No "intellectual" who has lived in or visited the US can possibly read this thread without wailing and gnashing teeth. To most of the freethinking world, it's inconceivable that stupidity and superstition on this level can still be allowed to fester in any nation. and yet surprisingly that in itself is a testament to the progress of nations in tolerance for freedoms of speech and religion and political ideology. The American people (if not the whole world and human race) face problems today that are much more dire than any biblical prophecy. The bible talks about a beast rising from the sea...I think a worldwide famine caused by out of control solar exposure would be a slightly worse outcome. The bible talks about dying, soldiers in Iraq live it and experience it. The horrors of the bible are a small matter compared to the horrors of the present. | Funny how the freethinking world has had to be bailed out of a couple world wars in the last century by a nation of stupidity and superstition.
Free expression exists, what, because "intellectuals" think peace and prosperity into existence? If one thinks enough one forgets to take the time to love.
Why would the Liberal minded have an interest in censorship? I'd think they would be the first and loudest in their zeal to protect the individual and their right to fairness and justice.
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Marerophilia:
A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is;
Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown;
Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter
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10-29-2008, 02:41 PM
| | Inventor of the Rapedar | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: nTown, UK
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Originally Posted by Sophia_ Funny how the freethinking world has had to be bailed out of a couple world wars in the last century by a nation of stupidity and superstition.
Free expression exists, what, because "intellectuals" think peace and prosperity into existence? If one thinks enough one forgets to take the time to love.
Why would the Liberal minded have an interest in censorship? I'd think they would be the first and loudest in their zeal to protect the individual and their right to fairness and justice. | Where are you getting "censorship" from in that post?
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10-29-2008, 02:48 PM
|  | feministsforlife.org | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In My Tanooki Suit
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| | I really don't hate on Sophia_ like others do, but I find myself fade out of a good thread as soon as he enters it.
__________________ getting tired of the collective orgasm at the public declaration of the word "change" Dr. Nathanson |
10-29-2008, 03:03 PM
| | whirling dervisher | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spin me
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Originally Posted by Thumperlyn I really don't hate on Sophia_ like others do, but I find myself fade out of a good thread as soon as he enters it. | Well, I can handle your criticism. You could ignore me, or put me on "ignore"; that would be fine with me. In my heart I understand. MY style is antagonistic. America's style in the world has also been antagonistic. American business leaders, and the international banking powers want to use American dominance to intrude on the entire world. Are these the values that the PEOPLE want to have imposed on them?
The internet is a powerful communication network. Minds are being influenced every single day by media, government, business, etc. How do we filter the messages if we don't learn to tolerate and/or ignore those styles which do not fit our state of mind? How do we think for ourselves if we don't learn to filter out the influences to our subconscious minds?
Advertisers and media experts are masters at influencing the subconscious. How do we learn to free our minds?
Group censorship or personal ignore?  thanks for giving me the opportunity to express this concept. Should religious beliefs be allowed to be expressed in public, especially in political venues? And vice versa: should political issues be expressed in churches?
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Marerophilia:
A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is;
Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown;
Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter |
10-29-2008, 03:17 PM
| | Inventor of the Rapedar | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: nTown, UK
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Originally Posted by Sophia_ Well, I can handle your criticism. You could ignore me, or put me on "ignore"; that would be fine with me. |
Or you could just post better. Everyone would be fine with that.
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10-29-2008, 03:52 PM
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