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Old 08-29-2008, 01:48 PM
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LOL McCain's Power Move.

McCain praises VP choice Palin's 'tenacity' - John McCain News - MSNBC.com

can someone please tell him he's about, oh i don't know, 2 years late?


DAYTON, Ohio - Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain introduced his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, at a raucous rally Friday, praising her "tenacity" and "skill" in tackling tough problems.

"She is exactly who this country needs to help us fight the same old Washington politics of me first and country second," McCain told supporters in Dayton.

Palin, who becomes the first woman to serve on a GOP presidential ticket and the first Alaskan to appear on a national ticket, echoed McCain's appeal to battle the status quo in Washington.
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"This is a matter when principles ... matter more than the party line," she said to the cheering crowd of 15,000.

Palin made an immediate play for support from Democratic women, mentioning that she followed in the footsteps of Geraldine Ferraro, who was the Democratic vice presidential running mate in 1984.

She also referred favorably to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who drew 18 million votes in her unsuccessful run against Obama for the Democratic nomination.

"But it turns out the women of America aren't finished yet and we can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all," she said.

Surprising choice

Palin's selection was a stunning surprise, as McCain passed over many other better-known prospects, some of whom had been the subject of intense speculation for weeks or months.

At 44, she is a generation younger than Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware, who is Barack Obama's running mate on the Democratic ticket.

She is three years Obama's junior, as well, and McCain has made much in recent weeks of Obama's relative lack of experience in foreign policy and defense matters.

Unlike Biden, who attacked McCain sharply in his debut last week, Palin was indirect in her initial attempts to elevate McCain over Obama.

"There is only one candidate who has truly fought for America and that man is John McCain," she said as the Arizona senator beamed. McCain was a prisoner of war for more than five years in Vietnam.

Palin has a strong anti-abortion record, and her selection was praised warmly by social conservatives whose support McCain needs to prevail in the campaign for the White House.

"It's an absolutely brilliant choice," said Mathew Staver, dean of Liberty University School of Law. "This will absolutely energize McCain's campaign and energize conservatives," he predicted.

Palin was elected Alaska's first woman governor in 2006, defeating Gov. Frank Murkowski in the GOP primary.

“I've been blessed with the right timing here,” Palin said before the election. “There's no doubt that Alaskans right now are dealing in an atmosphere of distrust of government and industry.”

She has proven to be a popular leader. Eighty percent of the state's voters gave her a "somewhat favorable" or "very favorable" rating in a July 2008 poll.

On Aug. 1, Palin scored a major victory when the Alaska Legislature passed a bill that authorizes her administration to award a license to TransCanada Alaska to build a 1,715-mile natural gas pipeline from Prudhoe Bay on Alaska’s North Slope to a hub in Canada.

The pipeline would be the largest construction project in the history of North America. If completed as hoped within 10 years, it would ship 4.5 billion cubic feet of natural gas per day. The United States imported about 10 billion cubic feet of natural gas per day in 2007.

Under investigation for firing
But Palin’s seemingly bright future was clouded in late July when the state Legislature voted to hire an independent investigator to find out whether she tried to have a state official fire her ex-brother-in-law from his job as a state trooper.

The allegation was made by former Department of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan, whom Palin fired in mid-July.



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“It is a governor’s prerogative, a right, to fill that Cabinet with members whom she or he believes will do best for the people whom we are serving,” Palin told CNBC’s Larry Kudlow in an interview on Aug. 1. “So I look forward to any kind of investigation or questions being asked because I’ve got nothing to hide.”

Palin also reacted to the indictment of Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens by calling it “very dismaying.” She added, “Hopefully though, this won’t be a distraction and get people’s minds off what has to be done in the grand scheme of things.”

As for the prospect of her being vice president, Palin told Kudlow that she could not answer the question of whether she wanted the job “until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day. I’m used to being very productive and working real hard in an administration. We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that we’re trying to accomplish up here.”

'Hail Mary pass'
Democrats pounced on the news that McCain chose Palin, characterizing the move as a gamble.

"After the great success of the Democratic convention, the choice of Sarah Palin is surely a Hail Mary pass," New York Sen. Chuck Schumer said. "Certainly the choice of Palin puts to rest any argument about inexperience on the Democratic team."

But conservatives praised her anti-abortion credentials.

"Sarah Palin is a pleasant surprise for those of us who had hoped that Senator McCain would pick a principled and authentic conservative pro-life leader," former presidential candidate Mike Huckabee said.

Huckabee also used the Palin pick to reach out to women.

"Governor Palin ... will remind women that if they are not welcome on the Democrat's ticket, they have a place with Republicans," he said.

"When we first heard, it was kind of confusing," Palin said, according to an account in the Anchorage Daily News. She called the news "very, very challenging."

But she also related what she thought God would say to her family about her son: "Children are the most precious and promising ingredient in this mixed-up world you live in down there on Earth. Trig is no different, except he has one extra chromosome."

Palin made a name for herself in Alaska politics by serving as mayor of Wasilla City for six years and going on to run unsuccessfully for the Republican nomination for lieutenant governor in 2002.

After her unsuccessful run, Palin received an appointment to the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, where she ended up serving a role in an ethics probe into Republican Party Chairman Randy Reudrich, who was questioned about conflicts of interest with the oil industry.

The investigation ultimately forced Reudrich to resign from the commission.

Palin's role in the investigation left her a party outsider, but she was able to win the 2006 Republican gubernatorial primary against Murkowski, going on to win the general election by 7 points over her Democratic opponent.

During one debate before the primary, Palin said she was in favor of capital punishment in especially heinous cases such as the murder of a child. "My goodness, hang 'em up, yeah,” she said. Palin opposes abortion rights.

Born in Idaho, Palin moved to Alaska with her parents in 1964, when they went to teach school.

She received a degree in communications and journalism from the University of Idaho in 1987.





look at me posting in PoliSci. discuss on whether the GOP is going to lolz at him like the liberals are doing right now.
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if Obama doesn't win, i'm going to kill myself. if the stress of thinking he won't doesn't do it.
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if Obama doesn't win, i'm going to kill myself. if the stress of thinking he won't doesn't do it.
i feel much the same, and well, i'm not even american.
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i was actually just at this with my moms. & i was pretty speechless that he had the moxie to do it. can't say i rly saw it coming. but i guess it's kind've predictable now. i mean, he needs some kind of edge to stay in this if he's rly going to be up against a black guy.

i like her. i've seen her on some of those pundit shows & thought she was pretty $@$$y, & i daresay she looked almost gilf-ish irl. but McCain is just so < it's not even funny. it's a damn shame. but it'll be interesting to see the young(er) white girl versus the young(er) blk man.

screams try-hard, but i'm down. it's not like i'm voting this yr anyway.
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but on behalf of AngelDust, i just might vote McCain so Obama doesn't win. to do the rest of the world, as well as kittyradio, a favor.
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absolutely not.

i cannot picture that woman as president. i saw her speech this morning and she's bland and sounds slightly retarded. clinton and pelosi and michelle obama could eat her for fucking lunch. and i hope they do.
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i'm joining the league of women voters again. they've been working for women's rights for over 88 years. they are a respected organization.

moveon.org sent me an e-mail, there is volunteer work for me to do this sunday.

i will fight with every fiber of my being.

i just met the friend of a friend who got their citizenship yesterday, just to vote for obama.
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absolutely not.

i cannot picture that woman as president. i saw her speech this morning and she's bland and sounds slightly retarded. clinton and pelosi and michelle obama could eat her for fucking lunch. and i hope they do.
she could't be any worse!!
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I am very offended at McCain because he stated several times that Obama has no experience when he himself has to read his speech. He didn’t even bother to memorize it because he knows he is going to win. Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin gave a better speech than McCain. She should be the one running for president and not McCain.

One more thing did anyone else felt something is just not right with the crowd of people that attended McCain big event? I almost fell asleep during McCain speech.. Can you imagine for the next four years of McCain reading his speeches and making Americans fall asleep.

I would pay big money to see Gov Sarah Palin jap slap McCain silly while yelling out loud, " Wake the fucl< up"
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mccain is pandering to all those who wanted clinton just because she was a woman. also her husband is like, native alaskan, so she's got that in her corner of underserved-tryin'-to-get-up-that-hill.
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i was actually just at this with my moms. & i was pretty speechless that he had the moxie to do it. can't say i rly saw it coming. but i guess it's kind've predictable now. i mean, he needs some kind of edge to stay in this if he's rly going to be up against a black guy.

i like her. i've seen her on some of those pundit shows & thought she was pretty $@$$y, & i daresay she looked almost gilf-ish irl. but McCain is just so < it's not even funny. it's a damn shame. but it'll be interesting to see the young(er) white girl versus the young(er) blk man.

screams try-hard, but i'm down. it's not like i'm voting this yr anyway.

If it's not an entirely cynical move to win over those Hillary supporters that were maybe thinking perhaps they shouldn't vote again Obama purely out of lunkheaded spite, it's a weird coincidence.
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mccain is pandering to all those who wanted clinton just because she was a woman. also her husband is like, native alaskan, so she's got that in her corner of underserved-tryin'-to-get-up-that-hill.
Yeah, plus it gives her an excuse to be pro-life in the eyes of the condescending sophisticates because, you know, she's from a backwards state, she doesn't know any better, right?
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Yeah, plus it gives her an excuse to be pro-life in the eyes of the condescending sophisticates because, you know, she's from a backwards state, she doesn't know any better, right?
shes so god damned perfect in terms of maneuvering. because really. who cares if shes any good or not.

if i were obama i would have picked lieberman because he's a jew. and sorta conservative. but i guess obama doesnt believe in skanky poltical tactics?
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Yeah, plus it gives her an excuse to be pro-life in the eyes of the condescending sophisticates because, you know, she's from a backwards state, she doesn't know any better, right?
right.
i can't stand obama. seriously. i don't know what he stands for, didn't know before he won the nomination and i certainly don't know now. i guess what bugs me most about the guy is the fact that he never points out why democrats are better than republicans. he always talks about working and compromising with them. which makes me furious every time.
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right.
i can't stand obama. seriously. i don't know what he stands for, didn't know before he won the nomination and i certainly don't know now. i guess what bugs me most about the guy is the fact that he never points out why democrats are better than republicans. he always talks about working and compromising with them. which makes me furious every time.
Why? I mean, realistically, any leader of one party is going to have to deal and work with the other extensively, unless you get a seriously landslide victory, which would be highly surprising. It's pretty lame if you can't even be bothered to find out what he stands for before you start hating the guy.
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I'm thinking (and hoping) that this will totally backfire on McCain and Obama will win by a landslide.

McCain/Palin can be the Mondale/Ferraro of 2008!!
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Why? I mean, realistically, any leader of one party is going to have to deal and work with the other extensively, unless you get a seriously landslide victory, which would be highly surprising. It's pretty lame if you can't even be bothered to find out what he stands for before you start hating the guy.
i don't hate the guy i just can't stand him.
and the reason i can't stand him is that he's made this whole working and compromising with the other side the main focus of his campaign while, in my opinion, he should be focusing on why voting democrat is better than voting republican. that'd help him close the deal and win by a landslide is all i am saying.
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