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08-29-2008, 08:20 PM
|  | hi hater. | | Join Date: Dec 2006
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| | | if Barack Obama didn't believe in skanky political tactics then Barack Obama would be Bob Barr, not Barack Obama.
now that i keep reading about this bitch, i kind've actually genuinely like her. especially all that talk about finally drilling the fuck out of Alaska. & what a better way of accomplishing that than an actual bitch from Alaska?
she's also almost untouchable to Obama. one of the most incriminating things about her [her "limited" governor status] is one of Obama's as well. & even then, she did more as a governor then he did as a senator. he's rly gonna have to dig deep if he wants to bash her in a way that can't backfire.
which he will.
i'm not rly one to talk about pro-life, just cuz it's not rly my bizz, but i like how she gave birth to that tard even while knowing he was gonna be that way. that kind've puts her money where her mouth is on that one. so i'll respect her for that.
i don't rly know her stance on the gayz, but i'm sure one of them will barge in & start screaming from their soapbox about it so i'll just wait for that one.
basically. i just wish she wasn't going with McCain. soe bad. cuz i can't imagine them making it. but McCain will definitely have the Hillary backlash with no problem.
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08-29-2008, 08:20 PM
|  | she dances | | Join Date: Apr 2006
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Originally Posted by Ophiel Well, you're probably right that it's empty rhetoric. My best guess is that he's courting the floating vote. So he's trying to come off as affable and not express the kind of strong views on divisive issues that will put people off him. It sucks, but it's politics, right? | you're right. I'm just scared that it might put off some hard-core democrats who will just sit home or, worse, confuse others who will end up voting for the McCain instead. i just think a much stronger rhetoric is what is needed to win this election and secure the democrat and floating vote. that's my opinion though and i hope i am wrong and that if he's elected he proves himself to be what people think he is. | 
08-29-2008, 08:27 PM
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| | | Welll, you might get it nearer the election. It doesn't seem likely, but you might. Just prepare yourself: you should never underestimate the power of the left (in so far as you can apply that term in America) when it comes to shooting oneself squarely in the foot. | 
08-29-2008, 08:31 PM
|  | she dances | | Join Date: Apr 2006
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Originally Posted by Ophiel Welll, you might get it nearer the election. It doesn't seem likely, but you might. Just prepare yourself: you should never underestimate the power of the left (in so far as you can apply that term in America) when it comes to shooting oneself squarely in the foot. | haha, i can assure you, i know and i am prepared.
ps. getting it nearer the election might be too late though seeing how Kerry lost the 2004 election in july. | 
08-29-2008, 08:36 PM
| | this is the big house | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: U.S.A.
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Originally Posted by dirtyplotte shes so god damned perfect in terms of maneuvering. because really. who cares if shes any good or not.
if i were obama i would have picked lieberman because he's a jew. and sorta conservative. but i guess obama doesnt believe in skanky poltical tactics? | Bidens a Catholic?, not a bad demographic for geopolitics concern | 
08-29-2008, 08:38 PM
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| | | he won't be for long. haven't they excommunicated him? or at least banned him from taking the Eucharist? which is pretty much the same thing?
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08-29-2008, 08:45 PM
| | this is the big house | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: U.S.A.
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| | | Something about running for public office gets you exumed to ashes in the religion? | 
08-29-2008, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by makeup rat haha, i can assure you, i know and i am prepared.
ps. getting it nearer the election might be too late though seeing how Kerry lost the 2004 election in july. | That was pretty impressive, I have to say, but then, The Democrats were always taking a bit of a chance running Mr Ed as a candidate. | 
08-29-2008, 09:24 PM
|  | give me the sickest one. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: fox in the snow
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Originally Posted by withtheleaves Bidens a Catholic?, not a bad demographic for geopolitics concern | no no i mean the whole jews are putupon as well as obama wouldnt have to worry as much avbout the muslim bullshit because jews and muslims are like sworn eneimies. catholic isnt all that putupon anymore.
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08-29-2008, 09:53 PM
|  | Call me.....PLEASE | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North Miami Beach, Florida
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| | OK I made up my mind let's all run out and vote for McCain...
His speech made the most sense even if it did make you fall asleep..
The plus side McCain picked a woman who believes in staying at home and if you have time you can venture out...
Sarah Palin is as close to that type of woman McCain can get...
But deep down I would pay big money to see Sarah jap slap McCain silly...
Can you just imagine that... One day as McCain is president she get so fed up with this stay the course crap she looses it live on TV and just Jap slap McCain on the head while yelling out loud, " Have you lost your mind"
Please do not give me any credit for anything I wrote because I copied it from someone else. | 
08-29-2008, 11:23 PM
|  | afflicted | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chicago
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| | | ready to lead hopefully they gave her a job description.... Palin dissed veep job - Mike Allen - Politico.com
Count Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as one of the most surprised that she was chocen as unning mate for Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.).
In an interview just a month ago, she dissed the job, saying it didn’t seem “productive.”
In fact, she said she didn’t know what the vice president does.
Larry Kudlow of CNBC’s “Kudlow & Co.” asked her about the possibility of becoming McCain's ticket mate.
Palin replied: “As for that VP talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day? I’m used to being very productive and working real hard in an administration. We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that we’re trying to accomplish up here for the rest of the U.S., before I can even start addressing that question.”
Her evident distaste for the office would be part of her appeal: It would show McCain is running an anti-Washington, reformist campaign.
But it also points to a huge negative for her: It robs Republicans of their most effective argument against Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) — that he lacks experience.
Before Palin’s election in December 2006 as the state’s first woman governor, she served two terms on the city council of Wasilla, Alaska (population 6,700), and two terms as the mayor/manager of Wasilla.
----- Palin in the Green Room | Print Article | Newsweek.com
NEWSWEEK's Karen Breslau shares a personal moment with the Alaska governor.
Karen Breslau
Newsweek Web Exclusive
Updated: 8:54 PM ET Aug 29, 2008
When Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin arrived backstage for our NEWSWEEK Women & Leadership Event in Los Angeles last March, John McCain had just wrapped up the GOP nomination. Palin had yet to endorse McCain—she liked Mitt Romney—and as we waited in the green room, I urged her to "feel free" to make some news on stage. She grinned broadly—looking back, I guess it was a grin of the Cheshire Cat variety—and thanked me for the offer.
Once onstage, together with Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano, Palin talked about what women expect from women leaders; how she took charge in Alaska during a political scandal that threatened to unseat the state's entire Republican power structure, and her feelings about Sen. Hillary Clinton. (She said she felt kind of bad she couldn't support a woman, but she didn't like Clinton's "whining.")
I joked with her about being on McCain's short list for vice president, and we had a good chuckle. We also talked about the challenges of running a government while also raising a large and young family. At the time, I didn't know that Palin, clad in a loose, dark dress, was seven months pregnant with her fifth child. An aide called me the next day to tell me that Palin would be announcing the pregnancy at home in Alaska and that she had wanted me to know as a courtesy. She was sorry she hadn't mentioned it the night before.
A few weeks later, Palin's son Trig Paxon Van Palin was born prematurely. She and her husband Todd issued a statement saying they knew their fifth child would face "special challenges"—her office later confirmed that Trig had been born with Down syndrome and that the family felt "blessed." | 
08-29-2008, 11:43 PM
|  | kitschy minger | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: the medusa cascade
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| | | Well I was all set to vote for McCain but now i'm not so sure
what a shame
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08-30-2008, 01:07 AM
| | wutz so big bout anal sex | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: at Ms. Kim's rub and tug
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| | | McCain's campaign is DOA. Really has been since the end of the primary season. He would have little to offer in times of "conservative mania" and has even less in the wake of the Near Stalinist debacle that was the Bush Administration's stewardship. He's too old, too rigid (no pun intended), too inarticulate, and too outdated for the urgency of the challenges facing not just America but the whole of Europe and the world.
But as desperate home run swings and half court buzzer shots go, for a politician he didn't do half bad.
The saddest reality is that not just US but all politicians are speaking in muted half truths these days. They act as if Oil is never going to run out and that that won't impact the aviation and shipping industry worldwide. They act as if the explosion in population won't affect sanitation, resource availability and species diversity worldwide. They always speak only of the moment as if there is no future we should be equally if not more aware of.
Its all just a sad commentary really. we're the parasites. not the mosquitoes and rats. | 
08-30-2008, 01:26 AM
|  | Blessed are the forgetful | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New York
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| | | Atleast Obama has spoken up about supporting other energy sources than oil. It's a step in the right direction if we start funding. We are finally, or will finally, start opening our eyes to the fact there is no way that we can keep depending on forgein oil.
I laughed when I heard that the governer of Alaska was his vice. She's 44; has less experiance than Obama even, already has been through a scandal, and ironically is pro-choice after all this drawn on coverage on Mccain's plan to make abortion illegal in the States. The only people we should be afraid to lose votes from right now are extreme feminists. something like 4% more of Hilary voters went to Mccain after she dropped (Mind you, I havn't looked at the percentages since before the democratic convention, and even choice to have Biden as VP) and hopefully this won't raise the bar....doubtful.
I'm excited to watch the Republican convention. All they have left really is to childishly bash Obama for "seeming as a celebrity" (I actually half way agree with that though...don't feel like getting into it right now) and minor things that truthfully won't be fooling anyone but religious bone heads, ignorant people (not saying there arn't ignorant people for Obama), and the filthy rich.
I hated Obama before he chose Biden, and after last nights speech, I've come to appreciate him. I look foward to his presidency....if Mccain wins it'll be just like when Bush Senior was voted in; Abbie Hoffman commited suicide, and I could see many people doing drastic things if this election goes arway too. | 
08-30-2008, 01:48 AM
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| | | if we're calling "experience" as "time", then yes, Obama is much more "experienced".
but when it comes to the quality of the time spent, i think Palin has done far more for her state in her terms as governor than Obama did as his stay in the senate. with far less scandal, might i add.
also, Palin's attitude towards the "typical Washington politics" is pretty refreshing. moreso than Obama's. she's not using technicalities (as whats-his-face does). she flat out sues the government over shit she don't like. which i think, personally, is amazing. i'm surprised she's even part of the GOP, tbh.
but w/e. she is. i'm a fan. but not of McCain. nor Obama. & will probably throw my vote away to Barr.
but watch out for bbgirl in the future, guyz. this is pretty srs politicking.
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08-30-2008, 02:10 AM
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| | I'm a little conflicted. Amanda Marcotte hates this woman but Michelle Malkin loves her.
Those are the only bloggers I really follow (except for Andrew Sullivan, and I love his books and everything but mostly I just really want to eat out his ass so that doesn't count but  ) and it's because I'm entertained by how much I loathe both women.
So placing myself contrary to those two harpies isn't going to help me, although on this issue I think Amanda makes a bigger fool of herself than Michelle.
I kind of like Palin though. I'm a little scared of the pro-life thing (then again, what the fuck do i care?), but she seems like a fairly stand-up bitch. If I was a chick I'd probably be a lot like her except for the career. I'd definitely have a gun, a lot of kids, and live in a cold climate where my blue collar husband would fuck me raw to pass long nights.
I had a big crush on the real (gay) American hero who died on the 9/11 flight that crashed in Pennsylvania, he was totally foxy and played rugby like me and just seemed like a really incredible person...anyway, he was a Republican and I found of picture of him and McCain. So I've been giving McCain the benefit of the doubt on a lot of shit and sort of hearing him out. Which is more than I did with Bush II
Not that it matters since I can't vote and don't really care anyway. | 
08-30-2008, 05:01 AM
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| | | Fun fact: any woman who succeeds in politics for probably at least the next 50 years is only going to do so by looking and acting like a man. | 
08-30-2008, 09:03 AM
|  | thatyou didthis TOME | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by Ophiel Fun fact: any woman who succeeds in politics for probably at least the next 50 years is only going to do so by looking and acting like a man. | and what exactly is "acting like a man"? Maybe it's the perceptions of what is typical masculine vs feminine behaviour/demeanour that have to change.
Anyhow, back to Palin, the more I think about it, the more convinced I am that it was a really stupid move by McCain. Someone with her lack of experience has no business being a "heartbeat" away from the Presidency. I think he's pretty much secured an Obama win...notwithstanding that we're talking about the same voters who gave Bush a second term.
And Obama's convention speech was the best one I've ever seen him give. After seeing that (I think a side of himself he hasn't really shown much before) I really want to see him as president - even though I still think Hillary would have been a stronger candidate.
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08-30-2008, 09:18 AM
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