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Old 06-22-2008, 12:26 PM
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p.s. i wish he would just choose someone already. i;m sick of this drum roll!
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why doesn't nader just drop out right now? wouldn't his core 'base' be the ones most offended by this crap?

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Why don't third-party candidates realise that the reason people don't vote for them is not because the electorate are poor mind-controlled media-brainwashed SHEEPLE, but because the candidates are all petulant self-absorbed arrogant pricks?
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I liked Obama's response about how Nadar left an extraordinary legacy but he was perennial and trying to get attention.
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why doesn't nader just drop out right now? wouldn't his core 'base' be the ones most offended by this crap?

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he's a fucking idiot. let me ask you this...

how do you play on white guilt while at the same time avoiding discussions about all of the "black issues" that would make white folks feel guilty? does he not see the contradiction?

furthermore, what a jackass for playing on something else that probably few people will notice. claiming Obama "talks white" resonates with black folks that use it as an insult toward each other. if you do well in school, you're acting white, if you speak well, you talk white, etc. Nadar is officially on my shit list.
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"Acting white" implies "acting black", which is what? Is it "acting white" to have good diction and succeed in life because the "black" thing to do is to have low aspirations and talk like a retard? Hard to imagine that black people would choose that archetype for themselves by themselves.

I've not noticed Obama playing on white guilt, from the little that I've followed. And to be honest, white guilt isn't very hard to circumvent. I don't suffer from it. I doubt a lot of people did before they first heard of it. Most people, to my knowledge, are aware that what their great-great-great-grandparents did isn't their fault and that they shouldn't feel guilty about it.

So I don't believe that anyone will vote for Obama purely because they'd feel guilty if they voted for a white guy. I think this is an attempt to make people think that that's why they're voting Obama, so that they're feel like race traitors or some stupid thing, and maybe, just maybe, a few of them might vote for Nader.

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The Onion, saying it all:

Today Now!: How To Pretend You Give A Shit About The Election | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
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how do you play on white guilt while at the same time avoiding discussions about all of the "black issues" that would make white folks feel guilty? does he not see the contradiction?
I'm beyond even disagreeing with him, it's like two different people wrote that and didn't read what the other one said.

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furthermore, what a jackass for playing on something else that probably few people will notice. claiming Obama "talks white" resonates with black folks that use it as an insult toward each other. if you do well in school, you're acting white, if you speak well, you talk white, etc. Nadar is officially on my shit list.
Yeah, I noticed that and it also seemed to me he was saying that black male politicians are 'acting white' if they don't speak in those southern-baptist-preacher cadences, which is presumably the only way black people are allowed to be articulate?
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Old 06-26-2008, 10:20 AM
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Yeah. It was feminists that came up with this idea though.
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so pretty much white people are ruining america. they're just proving hillary's "black people's civil rights weren't shit w/o white liberals" sentiment right.

what is obama going to do so differently in the white house? besides throwing some d's on that bitch.

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so pretty much white people are ruining america. they're just proving hillary's "black people's civil rights weren't shit w/o white liberals" sentiment right.

what is obama going to do so differently in the white house? besides throwing some d's on that bitch.

Probably nothing different. Probably nothing markedly worse or better. America flips a coin. If a black candidate gets in without being exceptionally wonderful, it's still better than getting no black president because people don't want to be seen to have been tricked into voting for a black guy out of white guilt.
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Omigosh, Obama does not believe Americans need the status of a Free state. Obama secretly wants to erase several constitutional rights. Hillary and the rest of the democrates concures.

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he's a fucking idiot. let me ask you this...

how do you play on white guilt while at the same time avoiding discussions about all of the "black issues" that would make white folks feel guilty? does he not see the contradiction?

furthermore, what a jackass for playing on something else that probably few people will notice. claiming Obama "talks white" resonates with black folks that use it as an insult toward each other. if you do well in school, you're acting white, if you speak well, you talk white, etc. Nadar is officially on my shit list.
i actually just read this.

regardless, obama -- or rather, his camp -- are not idiots. if jesse jackson, al sharpton, & every other black poltician fell because they played into the dominant ideal of white guilt, then obama would have to be a grade-a idiot to follow the same foot-steps.

playing into white guilt doesn't have to mean standing at the pulpit screaming "DOWN WITH THE WHITE MAN!!! WHERE DA WHITE WOMEN AT??". rather, this is a subtle form of white guilt. if he was straight up innocent, he -- or again, his "camp" -- wouldn't release one liners about such 'racist' comments. they'd actually just flat-out ignore it. which is smthing they haven't done this whole entire campaign. you can try to say "OBAMA NEVER TLKD ABOUT RACE", but its not true. or.. maybe it is. but he only escapes on a technicality. which is a vry black man thing to do.

so, irl, a typical obama msg would read as:

"it's unfortunately very unfortunate that __. ___________ made such unfortunate remarks (ABOUT OBAMA BEING A BIG OLE DARKIE [IF YOU ARE WHITE YOU MUST VOTE FOR OBAMA IN 08 TO PAY BACK WHAT THE PERSON IN THIS QUOTE SAID ABOUT BLACK PPL. DO IT. DO IT NOW]). we pray for them."

cutting edge as fuck tbh.
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i actually just read this.

regardless, obama -- or rather, his camp -- are not idiots. if jesse jackson, al sharpton, & every other black poltician fell because they played into the dominant ideal of white guilt, then obama would have to be a grade-a idiot to follow the same foot-steps.

playing into white guilt doesn't have to mean standing at the pulpit screaming "DOWN WITH THE WHITE MAN!!! WHERE DA WHITE WOMEN AT??". rather, this is a subtle form of white guilt. if he was straight up innocent, he -- or again, his "camp" -- wouldn't release one liners about such 'racist' comments. they'd actually just flat-out ignore it. which is smthing they haven't done this whole entire campaign. you can try to say "OBAMA NEVER TLKD ABOUT RACE", but its not true. or.. maybe it is. but he only escapes on a technicality. which is a vry black man thing to do.

so, irl, a typical obama msg would read as:

"it's unfortunately very unfortunate that __. ___________ made such unfortunate remarks (ABOUT OBAMA BEING A BIG OLE DARKIE [IF YOU ARE WHITE YOU MUST VOTE FOR OBAMA IN 08 TO PAY BACK WHAT THE PERSON IN THIS QUOTE SAID ABOUT BLACK PPL. DO IT. DO IT NOW]). we pray for them."

cutting edge as fuck tbh.
I don't think anyone actually said that Obama "never talked about race", just that he didn't play on white guilt. Some people WILL consider any mention of black people to be playing on their white guilt, but you can't help those people.
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