Welcome to the kittyradio.com forums.
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. Remove these ads when you register. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!
If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us. | 
05-15-2008, 03:16 PM
|  | Crackbabble | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Brazil Indiana
Posts: 907
| | | Gay Marriage Ban Overturned In California Found this on yahoo.com....
SAN FRANCISCO - In a monumental victory for the gay rights movement, the California Supreme Court overturned a voter-approved ban on gay marriage Thursday in a ruling that would allow same-sex couples in the nation's biggest state to tie the knot.
ADVERTISEMENT
Domestic partnerships are not a good enough substitute for marriage, the justices ruled 4-3 in striking down the ban.
Outside the courthouse, gay marriage supporters cried and cheered as the news spread.
Jeanie Rizzo, one of the plaintiffs, called Pali Cooper, her partner of 19 years, and asked, "Pali, will you marry me?"
"This is a very historic day. This is just such freedom for us," Rizzo said. "This is a message that says all of us are entitled to human dignity."
In the Castro, historically a center of the gay community in San Francisco, Tim Oviatt started crying while watching the news on TV.
"I've been waiting for this all my life," he said. "This is a life-affirming moment."
The city of San Francisco, two dozen gay and lesbian couples and gay rights groups sued in March 2004 after the court halted the monthlong wedding march that took place when Mayor Gavin Newsom opened the doors of City Hall to same-sex marriages.
"Today the California Supreme Court took a giant leap to ensure that everybody — not just in the state of California, but throughout the country — will have equal treatment under the law," said City Attorney Dennis Herrera, who argued the case for San Francisco.
The challenge for gay rights advocates, however, is not over.
A coalition of religious and social conservative groups is attempting to put a measure on the November ballot that would enshrine laws banning gay marriage in the state constitution.
The Secretary of State is expected to rule by the end of June whether the sponsors gathered enough signatures to qualify the marriage amendment, similar to ones enacted in 26 other states.
If voters pass the measure in November, it would trump the court's decision.
California already offers same-sex couples who register as domestic partners the same legal rights and responsibilities as married spouses, including the right to divorce and to sue for child support.
But, "Our state now recognizes that an individual's capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed relationship with another person and responsibly to care for and raise children does not depend upon the individual's sexual orientation," Chief Justice Ron George wrote for the court's majority, which also included Justices Joyce Kennard, Kathryn Werdegar and Carlos Moreno.
In a dissenting opinion, Justice Marvin Baxter agreed with many arguments of the majority but said the court overstepped its authority. Changes to marriage laws should be decided by the voters, Baxter wrote. Justices Ming Chin and Carol Corrigan also dissented.
The conservative Alliance Defense Fund says it plans to ask the justices for a stay of their decision until after the fall election, said Glen Lavey, senior counsel for the group.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who has twice vetoed legislation that would've granted marriage rights to same-sex couples, said in a news release that he respected the court's decision and "will not support an amendment to the constitution that would overturn this state Supreme Court ruling." | 
05-15-2008, 03:53 PM
|  | old gregg? | | Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,072
| | | tl; dr
Soo gays can marry in LA? whoo | 
05-15-2008, 04:02 PM
|  | Silvine | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: lol
Posts: 2,024
| | | ZT3dster's boy finally gets the civil right he deserves. | 
05-15-2008, 08:10 PM
| | Registered Member | | Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 2
| | | Congratulations, homosexuals of California. Now you too will be able to chain your partners in dysfunctional, destructive relationships; tear each other down physically mentally and spiritually; and go to court where the judge decides who gets to live the high life while who becomes the wage slave. Enjoy.
And I'll wait until ten years down the road when homosexuals seek to ban gay marriage.
Sincerely,
A bitter survivor of the divorce wars. | 
05-16-2008, 07:12 AM
|  | Phil Goff | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Westport, New Zealand
Posts: 18,466
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by pueblonative Congratulations, homosexuals of California. Now you too will be able to chain your partners in dysfunctional, destructive relationships; tear each other down physically mentally and spiritually; and go to court where the judge decides who gets to live the high life while who becomes the wage slave. Enjoy.
And I'll wait until ten years down the road when homosexuals seek to ban gay marriage.
Sincerely,
A bitter survivor of the divorce wars. | You certainly sound bitter! My parents are still all happy and shit. Rule.
Meanwhile, I think this is a nice news story. It seemed to be the only one on the news tonight that involved a lot of happy people.
__________________ Time is the distance that you can't return by miles.
I escaped somehow. Let's go actualy [sic] I have quite a blessed life if I'm honest. I have many people to love, hate few and have few money problem's [sic].... What more does a person need? Oh yeah and I have some kind of humbleness unlike you of course ^_^ ~ CarefulCarpenter | 
05-16-2008, 07:02 PM
|  | thatyou didthis TOME | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,897
| | | How does it work when a married (same-sex) couple moves from California to another state that doesn't recognize them as married?
I like the Canadian way a lot better (stronger federal government), so the law is more consistent.
And I don't get these social conservatives...what are they so afraid of? We've had legalized gay marriage in Canada for a couple years now and there has been no groundbreaking change to "the family" | 
05-16-2008, 07:13 PM
|  | Skip to the end. | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ireland
Posts: 273
| | | It infuriates me that we still don't have same-sex marriages here. Why should anyone be denied a human right based on their sexual orientation? I can't get my head around the ignorance of our legal system. | 
05-16-2008, 08:29 PM
|  | Woman Talking to Death | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 3,177
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePrude How does it work when a married (same-sex) couple moves from California to another state that doesn't recognize them as married? | I'm not sure there is an answer for that. Something I remember from a couple of years ago when this started to become a big deal was that all 50 states recognize (heterosexual) marriages performed in other states, but there is no law requring that they do so, it's just an unwritten thing. Maybe it's been legal long enough in MA long enough for some precidents to have been set, but it would go state-by-state, someone would have to sue in a particular state and then the ruling would only hold for that state.
I wish my state would get on this! Although I think there might be something winding its way through the courts. Gov. Spitzer I believe was for it, so maybe Patterson is too.
__________________ We are sorry, the mind you have reached is not a working mind.
Please hang up and die again.
Please hang up,
And die again. | 
05-16-2008, 09:36 PM
|  | afflicted | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chicago
Posts: 302
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePrude How does it work when a married (same-sex) couple moves from California to another state that doesn't recognize them as married?
I like the Canadian way a lot better (stronger federal government), so the law is more consistent.
And I don't get these social conservatives...what are they so afraid of? We've had legalized gay marriage in Canada for a couple years now and there has been no groundbreaking change to "the family" | In anticipation of rulings such as this and the law in Mass., some states have explicitly codified NOT recognizing same-sex marriages in other states. This is one of those issues where the usual protocol of states recognizing each other's laws does not apply... not when fags and dykes are concerned!!
i'm surprised you haven't legalized polygamy and adult-child marriages in Canada by now. it's sure to happen soon...  | 
05-16-2008, 10:09 PM
| | threepointstance.us | | Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 9
| | | faggots need to learn to shut up. christ, if you love to take a D, i don't wanna hear about it. no marriage for you, either. didn't the destruction of sodom teach you retards anything? | 
05-16-2008, 10:16 PM
|  | Skip to the end. | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ireland
Posts: 273
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by olives faggots need to learn to shut up. christ, if you love to take a D, i don't wanna hear about it. no marriage for you, either. didn't the destruction of sodom teach you retards anything? | I pity you and your lack of an education. | 
05-17-2008, 02:11 AM
|  | ZTedster | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: herding cats
Posts: 1,013
| | | We are slowly becoming the moral and spiritual toilet that Europe has been. | 
05-17-2008, 02:20 AM
|  | I'm the hot one. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Dying 100 times
Posts: 6,660
| | | Now if only there were a fag worth marrying.. | 
05-17-2008, 02:39 AM
|  | ZTedster | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: herding cats
Posts: 1,013
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by pueblonative Congratulations, homosexuals of California. Now you too will be able to chain your partners in dysfunctional, destructive relationships; tear each other down physically mentally and spiritually; and go to court where the judge decides who gets to live the high life while who becomes the wage slave. Enjoy.
And I'll wait until ten years down the road when homosexuals seek to ban gay marriage.
Sincerely,
A bitter survivor of the divorce wars. | Once again, activist judges have created a right out of thin air. They give 67% of the California voters the finger and say they are going to force it on the citizenry no matter what they think.
Hitler used judicial fascism, too. He got a toehold on power with 31% of the vote. Then he packed the courts with activist judges, and shopped his cases to them to gain yet more power. The first case they decided upon was to forbid Jews to swim in the same public pools with Aryans.
California voters will most likely amend their constitution to define marriage as being between one man and one woman. The required amount of petition signatures is there for the amendment to be put to the ballot. However, the California Secretary of State is a lesbo card carrying member of the pink mafia. She is busy doing her best to weed out any illegal signers of the 1.6 million signatures. This state is run by the pink hand. They will be working overtime to find some way to stop this ballot measure.
It's funny how they check virtually no one's legality at the voting booth, but on something like this, they painstakingly check every single signature.
Hey, you 67% of Californians. You reject the idea that two ass poking sodomists contributes to sociey, is as wholesome, is as healthy as a man and a woman exchanging vows? Fuck you. We four unelected fascists in black robes created a law that demands you accept the idea or suffer financial ruin or incarceration, or both. | 
05-17-2008, 03:21 AM
|  | Woman Talking to Death | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 3,177
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by ZT3dster We four unelected fascists in black robes created a law that demands you accept the idea or suffer financial ruin or incarceration, or both. | They're going to incarcerate ordinary citizens for not marrying someone of the same sex? I'd better get on finding me a chick. I wonder if my cat being so afraid of strangers is going to be a big problem. Shit, I guess I'll also have to learn to listen to more than 'Uh, ok,' when I ask 'How was your day?' Do I have to actually play softball, or would enthusiatically cheering for my girlfriend's team be enough? Wow, complications.
__________________ We are sorry, the mind you have reached is not a working mind.
Please hang up and die again.
Please hang up,
And die again. | 
05-17-2008, 03:37 AM
|  | whirling dervisher | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spin me
Posts: 2,040
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildwoman They're going to incarcerate ordinary citizens for not marrying someone of the same sex? I'd better get on finding me a chick. I wonder if my cat being so afraid of strangers is going to be a big problem. Shit, I guess I'll also have to learn to listen to more than 'Uh, ok,' when I ask 'How was your day?' Do I have to actually play softball, or would enthusiatically cheering for my girlfriend's team be enough? Wow, complications. | If your cat was spayed or neutered you are legal in California. Don't sweat it.
__________________ Marerophilia:
A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is; Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown; Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter | 
05-17-2008, 12:14 PM
|  | ZTedster | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: herding cats
Posts: 1,013
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildwoman They're going to incarcerate ordinary citizens for not marrying someone of the same sex? I'd better get on finding me a chick. I wonder if my cat being so afraid of strangers is going to be a big problem. Shit, I guess I'll also have to learn to listen to more than 'Uh, ok,' when I ask 'How was your day?' Do I have to actually play softball, or would enthusiatically cheering for my girlfriend's team be enough? Wow, complications. | You don't think being sued or incarcerated over this so-called law is possible? To name just a couple places off the top of my head, all you need do is look at France or Canada to see where this is headed.
What makes you think a pair of sodomists won't try to force a preacher to join them in holy matrimony? What makes you think a court won't uphold their side of the argument? What makes you think that preacher won't be held in contempt and jailed for still refusing to join them?
One thing I know about leftists: they are relentless in trying to fulfill their feeeeelings and desires. At first the pinks wanted tolerance. Once they bent everyone to their will at that level they escalated it to acceptance, then celebration, then embracement, and now they will try to penetrate the churches. Then they will try to jail preachers for even reading from scripture about the outright abomination of sodomy. They will deem it as hate speech.
Wanna truly show some balls and bravery? Stop going after the soft targets like Christians who are inherently tolerant. Try that shit with Islam. Then you can truly stand there with your little chests all poked out in pride. Of course, it may be a little difficult to bray your successes without a head on your shouders. That will be laying beside you with a look of shock in its dull, dry eyeballs.
A murderer is to be less feared than you whacked out leftists who run around with frenzied zeal in your neverending quests to satiate your desires. | 
05-17-2008, 12:16 PM
|  | thatyou didthis TOME | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,897
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by ZT3dster Once again, activist judges have created a right out of thin air. They give 67% of the California voters the finger and say they are going to force it on the citizenry no matter what they think.
Hitler used judicial fascism, too. He got a toehold on power with 31% of the vote. Then he packed the courts with activist judges, and shopped his cases to them to gain yet more power. The first case they decided upon was to forbid Jews to swim in the same public pools with Aryans.
California voters will most likely amend their constitution to define marriage as being between one man and one woman. The required amount of petition signatures is there for the amendment to be put to the ballot. However, the California Secretary of State is a lesbo card carrying member of the pink mafia. She is busy doing her best to weed out any illegal signers of the 1.6 million signatures. This state is run by the pink hand. They will be working overtime to find some way to stop this ballot measure.
It's funny how they check virtually no one's legality at the voting booth, but on something like this, they painstakingly check every single signature.
Hey, you 67% of Californians. You reject the idea that two ass poking sodomists contributes to sociey, is as wholesome, is as healthy as a man and a woman exchanging vows? Fuck you. We four unelected fascists in black robes created a law that demands you accept the idea or suffer financial ruin or incarceration, or both. |
wow..."judicial fascism"
so, it there were a particular State wherein 67% of the population supported something like taking away the vote from women, or reinstatement of slavery for non-caucasians, and judges ruled that these "movements" weren't constitutional, and voted against them, they should be equated to Nazis?
Your approach seems to be: "ignore something that makes me feel uncomfortable, and hopefully it will cease to exist".
Get your head out of the sand. | |