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Old 05-18-2008, 04:03 PM
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I watched a documentary about the Vatican Observatory. it's sortof a little known fact that the Catholic Church has has a longstanding (150 years or so) relationship with astronomers/astrophysicists and a number of priests, especially Jesuits, work for the Church as official church astronomers, who are doing some of the best work in the field.

it's a really bizarre (but probably good) thing, i think.

anyway, the documentary is called Galileo's Sons, and you can learn more about it here: Galileo's Sons | Bullfrog Films
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The church adapts to the times slowly. Since it is in the myth business, it needs to develop new expansions of thought into the Catholic version of the Christian myth-- thus the people who do not think for themselves have hierarchal authority to defer to.

I believe in the direct approach to the divine. So did Galileo.

YouTube - Carl Sagan reads from Pale Blue Dot - Galileo

On flatland thinking, by Carl Sagan:
YouTube - Carl Sagan 4th Dimension Explanation
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I've never really got the appeal of Carl Sagan myself, but he is explaining, in a way, 4 (or 4+1) dimensional space quite well. Kinda, anyway.

I'm intrigued though, when you say "flatland thinking"... what do you think that means?
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Incidentally, either don't watch this, or watch it for a laugh, depending on how suggestible you are.


YouTube - Imagining the Tenth Dimension part 1 of 2
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Eternal, purposeful, visceral,
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C-LoVe. Be loved. We LoVe.
We entered.....with no fear.
We trust. We lust. We must.....untangle us.
C-LoVe on the edges...regardless.
Testing, questioning, empathizing.
Feeling our way, looking for clues,
having the blues, singing our tunes....of life.
Connected by the tether of time,
like stars in a line,
drunk on euphoria and wine.... so sublime.
Only different.
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DeJa Vu...incredibly true.
Watch and I'll return to you;
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for all time...forever...so clever, relatively.
We all exist at once.
Like ocean waves, we behave, you'll see;
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Did you watch both parts, right to the end? The very end of the second part is kinda important.
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Today Bush live on Iraqi TV opologized over the shooting of a Quran by an American soldier. Bush was seen crying as he made his live Iraqi TV announcement.

Wow Iraqi TV: Bush apologizes for soldier's Quran desecration - CNN.com

In the coming weeks the Catholic Church is going to hold sermons about Space Aliens and the end of the world Revelations....
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