Because he was smart enough to offer a different approach. Because nothing in his political history suggests he would sell out Democrats. Because, unlike Hillary, instead of tending to a shitty spouse's career, he actually dedicated his life to helping people less fortunate than himself, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT WOULD LINE HIS POCKETS. I'm still searching for Hillary's 35 years of helping people.

To claim it was her hard work over her name, i.e. who she is, is just ludicrous. Even if I supported the woman I would never believe otherwise.

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You're just clouding the issue. The "being black" was the original discussion point about the etitlement argument.

As for "waiting his turn", that was my observation as to why so many people are bitter against him. No need to throw insults around.



And his response couldn't have possibly been about him thinking that Obama can't win the general election. No, he's a racist. Yup.



Not if you don't want them to be.


So, all this proves is that Bill Clinton is a horn dog. There was never any proof of sexual harassment.



They were broke because they were completely embattled. I'm sure in your and many other people's eyes, they deserved it. I don't agree.

Yeah, the pardon thing is disgusting, and I'm not going to defend them on that.

But, doesn't most of their extreme wealth come from publishing and speaking engagements? I guess they did favours for all the people who attend and buy their books.

Again, I never said her name didn't help her. All I said is that she's worked harder (in federal politics) than Obama has.

And regardless of his offering a different approach, how did HE get there (really?). What outstanding feat has HE accomplished that put him in the position and spotlight to let the USA know about him?

O/T, but are you a lawyer by profession? I deal with (tax) lawyers daily in my line of work, and the way you argue is very reminiscent.

And my response was to your "waiting his turn" comment. Do I need to repeat this again?

Yeah, bringing up Obama's win by comparing it to Jesse Jackson total comes across as him thinking that Obama can't win the general election and in which case, it seems even more racist.

Nah, just proof of affairs.


They earned it when they decided to lie about something the knew to be true. Oh well.


Yeah, keep researching. Bill's payments for his speaking engagements get a little complicated. Also, even with the books, you still aren't accounting for all of their earned income.

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No, what you said is that the sense of entitlement comes from her hard work, not who she is. It's simply not true. I don't care how much harder she worked than Obama (which is truly subjective, oh wait, you want to just say federal politics lol), her sense of entitlement comes from her NAME and the fact that she worked hard TO HELP BILL all those years.

Wait, let us ask that about some past presidents...like say, Bill Clinton.

No, but I study law and understand legal argument. Which is another problem I have with the Clintons.

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I'm not saying Hilary is like a KKK member or anything, but she did majorly underestimate the country. To be fair a lot of people did. I talked to a girl who had volunteered with Bill Richardson's campaign and apparently he was trying to downplay the fact he was hispanic in some states like Iowa, where he thought they'd be more racist and at the beginning all the other candidates pretty much assumed they'd be able to beat Obama even though there was a lot of buzz about him, because they thought in the end all though people liked him that the voters would want to vote for someone who looked like them. Everyone underestimated Obama and America.

But the Clinton's are getting the most heat for it because they keep saying stuff even after it's been proven that a majority of Americans actually want to move beyond racism. Remember when Obama made his racism speech which could have been political suicide since most people don't like race to be mentioned? I guess that sort of thing would be too much HARD WORK for Hilary.

And Obama hasn't been working hard? If anything Hilary ran a shitty campaign. She started out AHEAD but instead of acting like a normal human being throughout the campaign she acted like a demented freak. She made a lot of assumptions and thought that because she was already well known and that she was old people would line up to kiss her ass. People don't want Hilary, they don't want the Clintons, they don't want any more Bushes, and they don't want McCain because they are tired of that old shit.

Both Hilary and Obama are politicians, but Obama is ALSO a leader. Hilary is not, she's been successful in senate but that doesn't equal leader. The only thing she's fit to be leader of is the Jenny Craig club. There's all this talk about sexism and racism but no one's mentioned ageism.

If Puerto Rico should be counted as a reason to run then the Myspace primaries should count too. And did you the interviews CNN did in West Virginia? Those people straight out said they don't like black people. So that doesn't tell you anything about the normal population.

There's a reason why people stopped voting- and it's because of Hilary's generation. They all use the Karl Rove strategy of do whatever it takes to win and they all think they are so awesome. But this isn't the 20th century anymore. We have Youtube and know how to use it. It takes like two seconds to look up someone and view their speech or see whether they made up a story about sniper fire or if they are a crazy old man with anger management issues.

Hilary being OLD does not mean she's earned shit. I hate that people think that being old means you can boss everyone around.

Hilary's generation could drink at 18... but then they moved the drinking age up to 21. They could drive at 16... but then they changed the rules so there's all these restrictions on drivers based on age. And THEN they made it so gas is too expensive anyway so we can't afford to drive. It's that hypocritical attitude that people are sick of. They try to ban young people from public places even though they were marching in the streets and setting stuff on fire when they were young. They take social security out of OUR paychecks and then tell us that we won't have social security when we're old. They made college expensive and then when people joined the military so they could pay for college, they send them to a pointless war so they can die or get brain damage. They had Roe v. Wade and now they are trying to overturn it just because they are too old to have to worry about getting pregnant.

I think everyone's tired of old people and their discrimination against the young. People like Hilary think they know everything just because they've were born first, so they should be able to make decisions and if you don't agree you should shut up. They are so full of bullshit. McCain is the "straight talk express"? Then how come he never made a speech about racism like Obama was willing to? Yeah, he did so because of Reverend Wright but if it were Hilary or McCain in that position they would have tried to pretend it didn't happen. Obama actually took the time to explain things to people and acknowledge that people were upset about the speech. Hilary and McCain act like they are above the people, that's why even though America does not want war, they still are talking about bombing Iran and starting more wars.

Notice how Obama says "WE" in his speeches well Hilary says "I"? That shows the difference in their attitudes towards people. Notice that Obama supporters are much more enthusiastic than other people are about their candidate? Notice how stores like Urban Outfitters now are selling Obama T-shirts. Obama is not just a politician like the other candidates, he's a phenomenon. But of course old people are laughing and saying he won't win because they are jealous a younger generation is getting the spotlight. How old do you have to be in this country to be taken seriously?

It’s not about how old you are it’s about being born in the late 1940s or early 1950s. Whatever age those people are is the age that matters in this country, and I expect that I will be practically dead before that stops being true, without ever once having been the right age for anything other than having been eight when Star Wars was released, which was pretty cool, but doesn’t really make up for a lifetime of being belittled and demonized on the rare occasions when I'm not entirely absent from public consciousness.

On the other current main tangent, I don’t believe that Hilary ever literally thought to herself ‘I’m entitled to this because I’m white.’ That misses the entire crux of contemporary white liberal racism, which is not believing that anyone thinks that way anymore, and therefore failing to understand what people of color are mad about now that the Jim Crow laws are gone. A common variation is assuming that because you face discrimination in some other way you do not also reap completely unfair privilege for being white.

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