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Old 04-22-2008, 04:17 PM
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The church ≠ the religion. Most Catholics I know have thought very lowly of the last two popes. As for the molested, I don't know, is there actually a higher percentage of child molesting priests as there are, for example, child molesting teachers, or other professionals who work with children?
How many other organizations, that have child molestors working for them, help cover up the crime by moving them around instead of letting them be prosecuted?
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How many other organizations, that have child molestors working for them, help cover up the crime by moving them around instead of letting them be prosecuted?
Most of them? This is not uncommon practice among secular organisations, I promise you. Until someone actually kills and rapes someone and sells the signed photos of it smeared with their spooge on eBay, most of the time schools and hospitals will deal with these people as if it's an arse-covering exercise, moving them for the sake of PR rather than because they give a shit. And to be fair, a lot of allegations are unfounded. So... I dunno. It's shit, and I won't claim the Catholic church isn't worse than other organisations. But they ARE just doing what anyone else would. I'm biased because I speak as a Catholic, but I honestly don't think blaming the religion does any good. The individuals responsible should be punished, because they did it. That's all.
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The individuals responsible should be punished, because they did it. That's all.
but the individuals only did it and got away with it for so long with the complicity of the institution. without that help they wouldnt have been able to continue doing what they did, and escape retribution. they were protected and given a haven by the institution even though they were fully aware of what had transpired, that gives them a share of the guilt.

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i dont think many organisations have quite the reputation for harbouring sex offenders that the catholic church currently enjoys.
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i dont think many organisations have quite the reputation for harbouring sex offenders that the catholic church currently enjoys.
No, they don't have the reputation. Doesn't mean they didn't do it though.

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Most of them? This is not uncommon practice among secular organisations, I promise you. Until someone actually kills and rapes someone and sells the signed photos of it smeared with their spooge on eBay, most of the time schools and hospitals will deal with these people as if it's an arse-covering exercise, moving them for the sake of PR rather than because they give a shit. And to be fair, a lot of allegations are unfounded. So... I dunno. It's shit, and I won't claim the Catholic church isn't worse than other organisations. But they ARE just doing what anyone else would. I'm biased because I speak as a Catholic, but I honestly don't think blaming the religion does any good. The individuals responsible should be punished, because they did it. That's all.
And there in lies the problem, at least for me. We are talking about RELIGIOUS people. You know, God lovers. How can they allow this to happen and try to hide it like any ol secular place? It's absolutely disgusting.
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the method the catholic church uses to introduce young boys to 'the priesthood' has been heavily criticised by many psychologists (i don't mean the ones you pay $5000 for a half hour sessions, i mean people who actually have a good grip on human behaviour and development) and child welfare charities.

picture a young boy, typically 14 although maybe as young as 12. he is sent to a closed environment where his only interaction is with other boys of a similar age and older priests (the odd asexual nun and monk may cross his path). baring in mind that the catholic church already has a problem with paedophile priests (anyone who denies this is in denial), there is a fair chance of sexual abuse. add that onto the fact that they are isolated from girls of their own age (or women in general) and that during their sexual development they are surrounded by boys of their own age. what the hell do you think happens in these schools? what happens to these boys when they grow up and are reintroduced to society?

if they've been abused there is a high chance of them abusing young boys. if they have sexual urges towards the opposite sex they are sexually immature - they never fooled around when they were kids. who will they target? women or girls? unlikely women (although it happens) as they're probably not going to go along with. i'm not saying girls do, they're just more easily manipulated.

i realise it probably doesn't happen this way so much any more if they're advertising for men. i mean, who would in their right mind would sign their son over to the catholic church nowadays?
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