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Old 04-11-2008, 10:28 PM
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Why can't Ron Paul get a "no"?

ERROR: If you can see this, then Google Video is down or you don't have Flash installed.


Rep Ron Paul: Gen Petraeus Iraq Surge Hearing

Please watch and let's discuss why this Libertarian/Republican of consistent integrity and honor is a problem for liberals, democrats, republicans and neocons.

Why is he the only one who appears to understand why Big Government leads to unjust, unconstitutional and undeclared wars?

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Old 04-11-2008, 11:35 PM
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It's really simple. Ron Paul advocates for taking away unconstitutional powers from federal government while the rest of congress is drooling to have a piece of that power. Of course they're going to have a problem with him, because, unlike the majority of the politicians from the last century or so, he actually acknowledges and upholds the constitution.

btw, the video is now unavailable so i wasn't able to see it
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Old 04-12-2008, 12:35 AM
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Let' hope it is available from Google video again soon. I tis quite revealing and a powerful statement. He asked a multitude of questions for the congressional record, and then asked the US Commander of Iraq(Gen. Petraeus) if the President has the power to bomb Iran without Congressional approval. He replied that he was Commander of Iraq and hadn't the purview(authority) to answer the question. Senator Paul pointed out that saying "no" would be a reasonable answer, yet to say he couldn't answer was rather revealing of the Commander's avoidance/"buck-passing"(my words).
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Old 04-12-2008, 03:47 AM
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Hate to interrupt the circle jerk, but we already had this discussion. Ron Paul isn't a problem because he's unelectable. Libertarians may not care to have answers to important questions (sorry, I mean silly questions, like "ummm.... so who pays for maintenance?") when they decide who to vote for, but the majority of the voting electorate does, which is why they vote for parties that actually have some kind of answer - even if it's wrong or a lie - over someone who looks at them blankly as if this is the first time anyone's ever asked.

And re: the OMG UNCONSTITUTIONAL POWERS, your constitution is a joke anyway. If a law needs to be passed, is widely supported, or just makes sense, it should be passed, or at least debated without some asshole trying to block it just because it's "unconstitutional". Sooner you guys burn that piece of shit the better.
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Old 04-12-2008, 11:09 AM
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I wouldn't expect you to be much interested in truth-seeking and/or integrity in regards to a swearing-in promise to uphold the constitution. This is what representatives are elected for--of course Senator Paul no longer has enough to win his party's nomination, yet his campaign supporters still feel the message is important. Your message of "burning the piece of paper" is representative of the external interests that have undermined our abilities to restrain our government from pre-emptive war and other injustices. Freedom has different appeals to different peoples. Strong ideals make for balanced and healthy lives.
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