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Old 01-24-2008, 11:38 AM
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Obama or Clinton?

Since it looks like it will be either of these two as the Dem nominee .... which are you in favor of?

I really think either one would be fine as a president. I will completely back whichever one can beat a Repugnican. I know that sounds lame, but things have gotten so BAD since 1999, I really think either one would possess the leadership skills necessary to put things back on the upswing.

Trouble is, I'm truly undecided. Obama has the charm, charisma, and vision. Clinton is brilliant, strong, and already a force to be reckoned with. I've been somewhat for Miz Clinton, but lately I'm thinking Obama might be more of a possibility than we thought before.

I do wish they would quit bickering so damn much. I think it makes them both look undiplomatic. If there was ever a time to quit that shit, it's now. It turns the voters off, and right now would be a great time for BOTH of them to come together and promote the Democratic ideals, only explaining the differences in their beliefs rather than making character assassinations, so that the Dem Party shows how noble it can be, instead of pulling the usual neocon MO. If they don't quit the infighting, the Repugs will come ahead YET AGAIN. with all the faux backslapping and such among their good ole boy ways...

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Old 01-24-2008, 11:54 AM
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the bickering is gross. absolutely. far as i can tell it started with mr clinton taking pot shots at obama. obama took it out on ms clinton (very clever clinton campaigners) and it mushroomed form there

just fucking stop it already and tell us what you think of the ISSUES not what you think of each other or each others opinions of the issues. im not INTERESTED in the petty crap!

IMHO there are so many hilary haters out in the world, that her nomination would sink the democrats.
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Old 01-24-2008, 01:48 PM
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I too am a little upset that Obama took the Clinton bait.

Regardless I am for Obama. And unlike it seems everyone else, I think I'd rather write in a candidate than vote for Hillary or any Republican, 'cause although the difference between Hillary and almost any Republican favors Clinton, I don't think I can morally justify it to myself.

AND NO IT'S NOT BECAUSE SHE'S A WOMAN. just wanted to clarify that.
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Well, despite my Ron Paul infatuation, if it ain't Paul, I'd rather it be a Democrap. I mean on the Reptile-ublican side we got a host of freaks. Ok, McCain is somewhat respectable, a military hero and all that, and he's been critical of Bush, and appears semi-aware of over-spending, but he's wants to police the world and bomb, bomb, Iran.

After him it goes rapidly downhill with Benito Guiliani (ha ha), Saint Tweety Bird, and Stormin Mormon.

Ok, between Hillary Inc. and Obama ..... Obama worries me cuz of his inexperience ... also, what the heck does he mean by 'change,' anyway. Let's have some examples, already. Still, he's not as deep with corporations. A vote for Hillary is a vote for Pfizer and her big bad dog Bill, who's been barking alot lately ...

Obama would be my second choice after Paul .... then Herr (or 'Hair') Edwards ... Then Hillary ... then McCAin... then we're into the plastic. Romney and Guiliani .. and then Hucklebee last.

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Old 01-24-2008, 02:14 PM
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I like Obama. He seems so level headed and rational.

I like Hillz too but for president I believe Obama would be better.

But I do not think America will elect a black president yet. There are many urban areas that would, and if I could vote I would definitely vote for him, but there is a hell of a lot of small town America, and those small town Americans will never vote for a black man OR a woman, for that matter.

The Hillary bashing is the one thing I hate at the moment. A lot of it is PURE sexism. (I'm not saying you are, rozalia qual, no worries), But a lot of people just purely despise her for no good reasons. Not everyone does, of course, but I see a ton of sexism beneath the Hillary hating.

I have a sinking feeling that it will be a Republican in office. Specifically McCain. But I want Obama.
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