Obama or Clinton? - Page 74

bodah · #**366** 02-10-2008, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by vegyrex

McCain is still in trouble with conservatives. He lost Kansas and is losing in Louisiana.

Hilarious. But it does not matter in the long run, he's still getting the nomination.... and there's no way conservatives will vote HC or BO. Maybe they'll just stay home

which would be fine with me!

bodah · #**367** 02-10-2008, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by vegyrex

Does it matter what Fox noise is saying?

A few days ago they made a "mistake" and identified McCain as a democrat. Its not the first time they've done that with republicans they don't like.

LMAO!

ThePrude · #**368** 02-10-2008, 01:18 PM

Maybe it is time for her to bow out for the sake of the Democratic party? Even though I think she's more qualified for the job, I think it would be a classy and magnanimous thing for her to do. The voters are increasingly showing that they're more interested in form over substance (thinking that the form is substance in itself), so maybe she should bolster Obama by being his runningmate. Would she have the humilty to do it?

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Hillary and Obama: He is unstoppable - Diane Francis
Hillary and Obama: He is unstoppable
The only winning ticket for Democrats is Barack Obama for President with Hillary as his running mate. Obama swept the weekend caucus and primaries and will continue to do so. He wins everywhere. His momentum is growing.
Hillary is on the ropes
The fact that she has had to "loan" herself $5 million to keep her campaign oiled is the beginning of the end. Obama is raising $30 million a month through small contributions.
The fact that Bill Clinton has been forced to disappear from the campaign in order to keep his foot out of his mouth is an admission that the couples' two-for-one candidacy is now a negative. Nobody wants a President with a First Lady (Bill Clinton) who does his own thing, socially and financially, or is invited to cabinet meetings.
Obama with Hillary at his side would be unbeatable ticket. She would remove his one vulnerability: Lack of experience. She cannot beat him and will not, if she does, keep his supporters who are drawn to him and him alone.
She must do what Romney did for the sake of the cause and the party -- make a deal, suspend her campaign, duck-tape her husband and let her kid go back to work. She must stop attacking Obama and vice versa so that Democrats can unite and get their house in order just as the Republicans may be doing if McCain makes a deal with Romney or another arch-conservative.
Obama's the man
I believe Barack Obama is unstoppable and deserves to be: He's attracting independents, young people and the disaffected in a way that's unheard of. He thinks out of the box. He is collaborative not polarizing. He is brilliant not cunning. He is optimistic not angry. He's the President America deserves. I have felt that, and written that for weeks.
At the same time, Americans in general, and Democrats in particular, have had big problems with Bill and Hillary's past behaviour, current lifestyle arrangement and arrogance, acquired post-Presidency. Now it shows.
It must be remembered that Obama was sought out and recruited by Oprah and others who wanted an alternative to the Clintons. Then what began as a "dump Billary" exercise turned into a movement headed by a new, charismatic leader. Hillary just hasn't got the right stuff. Never did. Or the right husband.
Al Gore an alternative
Another Democrat with huge stature and experience that could run with Obama is Al Gore. He has stayed above the fray and has achieved world-class status as a Nobel Prize winner and environmental leader. He is no friend of the Clintons and his disdain has been another nail in their coffin over the years.
However, his candidacy would alienate the Clinton supporters who would stay away or cause trouble.
Republicans would be crazy to pick Huck
Meanwhile, Huckabee continues to make his bid to run with McCain. He crowed about his "victory" in Kansas over the weekend. But only 11,000 out of 18,000 people who voted in the Kansas caucus on Saturday voted for Huck, roughly equivalent to a small neighborhood in California where six million voters reside.
The Kansas turnout is probably the crazies who supported laws that allowed 13-year-olds to marry or that, since recanted, placed creationism on the same academic footing in public schools as biology. Then there's Louisiana, another non-event.
Huckabee seems nice, but is totally out of his depth as are his supporters.

dirtyplotte · #**369** 02-10-2008, 01:41 PM

prude, have you looked at obamas record? because if you had compatred clinton with obama, you would come to the same conclusion many have; that his record is very strong and in many instances stronger than hillary's (as someone who will push forward and follow thyrough with initiatives and win them)

fen99us · #**370** 02-10-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtyplotte

prude, have you looked at obamas record? because if you had compatred clinton with obama, you would come to the same conclusion many have; that his record is very strong and in many instances stronger than hillary's (as someone who will push forward and follow thyrough with initiatives and win them)

Yeah really. Form over substance is very insulting to the people that voted for and will be voting for him. It's funny how he has gotten more votes from those that are more educated than Hillary has.

Also it's being shown that Hillary on Obama's ticket could hurt him, but she would NEED him on hers to win.