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Conservatism is dead as far as realistic political representation goes.
Reagan style idiotic type of conservatism seems dead.

At last.

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I do hope Obama wins the White House.... Not gonna be Ron Paul...
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Yeah the Obama love train is sorta...creepy. My bf and I always laugh at it because it's like everyone wants to have sex with him or something! Although, it was pretty funny when CNN cut off McCain's speech for Obama's.

I randomly woke up at like 5am this morning and Ann Coulter was on making a case against McCain and talking about supporting Hillary. I can't believe I sat through the whole thing because she seemed to be of very little substance. By the end of it she nearly had me convinced I should vote for McCain. A couple times she said something along the lines of, she'd rather have Hillary in office because we would get the same things accomplished, except Hillary would be stronger in the war against terrorism. And, if people are unhappy with the policies they get it gets blamed on the Democrats instead of the Republicans. Or something to that effect. Oh, and she fucking looks like Skeletor, I wanted to feed her so bad!
I wonder if Caulter was one of those 75,000 people who donated to Hillary's campaign.

The McCain bashing is so funny. He's done everything to appease those conservative blow hards and yet its done no good.

Now I read that some conservatives who still like him want him to choose Condoleezza Rice as his VP running mate. They reason that because she's an African American woman she could counter both Barack and Hillary. That's rather laughable. She's a clone of Bush. She dropped the ball pre 9/11. Most African Americans view her a female Clarance Thomas. A McCain-Rice ticket seems like a recipe for disaster. Even if every Hillary hating dem and independent voted for that ticket, it will still fail.
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Er, you give yourself too much credit. I only expected the sensible Clinton supporters to refute items because they can do so intelligently and have obviously read more pro-Clinton items than I have. I certainly never expected any refutations from you, I don't think you have the brain power.

In regards to the article you posted, again, had you actually read and comprehended any of my posts, you would see that it doesn't even remotely apply to me. I'm not talking about conspiracy theories you wacko.

Seriously, work on your reading and comprehension skills or stop responding to me. You are certainly the one coming off as unstable.

http://kittyradio.com/soapbox/love-r...tml#post930301
I'm not sure how saying "thanks for sharing" in another, completely unrelated thread over a month before this one has anything to do with our discussion here. I had no idea you are the same person, didn't even remember that thread until just now, and don't really give a shit.

You point out you don't read pro-clinton pieces, but you certainly are well versed in Anti-clinton pieces, including articles about her brothers (one from a conservative news org, you point out) and one from The Independent that ends with this: "Tony and Hugh Rodham may still dream of becoming the hazelnut kings of the Caucasus, but they are unlikely to succeed against the combined opposition of the Georgian government and the White House." That's referring to the clinton white house.

Later you try to convince us that because Chelsea Clinton has become a hedge fund manager, Hillary Clinton is of questionable character. Much of what you're going on about has to do with people other than her. Like the lowly campaign volunteers who allegedly received emails about Obama being a radical muslim, and possibly forwarded them. The campaign spokeswoman, who undoubtedly has closer connections to Hillary than these volunteers ever did, condemned the emails. You claim it was orchestrated by Hillary herself, it's just too shady to be anything else, you say. Wait - so who was talking about conspiracy theories??
Obama had a father who left him when he was two years old. Does that make Barry a deadbeat, too?

You posted a link to Toni Morrison's endorsement of Obama, in which she says "I have admired Senator Clinton for years. Her knowledge always seemed to me exhaustive; her negotiation of politics expert. " Ultimately, what she's writing about is her support for Obama based on a conviction that he's the right candidate for the time, but she doesn't have any facts to back that up. It's just her feeling. The worst thing she seems to be saying about Hillary relates to this, "Or if we believe cunning is insight. Or if we settle for finessing cures tailored for each ravaged tree in the forest while ignoring the poisonous landscape that feeds and surrounds it. "
Is your interpretation of this statement that Hillary is cunning, and cunning is evil?
There have been a lot of endorsements. And then?

You're confessing to being nearly convinced by Ann Coulter. Don't you get that Ann Coulter is working deviantly? Do you seriously think Ann Coulter would support Hillary Clinton? Let me see if i understand this correctly. We should ignore everything Hillary Clinton has been saying during her campaign for the last year and believe Ann Coulter's claims that Hillary is going to have a tougher foreign policy in Iraq than McCain, who admits to being willing to have troops there for upwards of a century? And you're going to insult my intelligence, and say I don't have an argument? I don't believe I ever said you were unintelligent, but I have emphasized that I think your judgment is impaired by your vitriol towards the Clintons.

Anywho, Morrison's argument is certainly a distance from your argument, that Hillary is as sinister as sinister gets, and she won't stop until she runs the world and all her associates are filthy rich. Work on your own reading skills, hon. I'll spare you a list of my academic achievements, but worry not for my brain power.
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I do hope Obama wins the White House....
He's good, but Hillary would be better.


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