Obama or Clinton? - Page 63

rozalia qual · #**311** 02-08-2008, 05:01 PM

that dr. retail article had its moments, but don't see how clinton is the "better" candidate for high-school educated, aside from perhaps the fact that she has the best name recognition? i fall into the "non educated" category but hillary does not speak to me at all, with the exception of her health care plan, and obama's is a needed improvement too anyway.

vegyrex · #**312** 02-08-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bodah

Yeah, but it was for a stupid reason, unfortunately. Who cares who said something first? ... and who cares what Whoopi thinks? But I LOVED HER in The Color Purple!

Sheesh! Those ol' biddies on The View!

It doesn't matter so much what she says or thinks, but rather, what she did.

Instead of voting for Obama, she voted for Hillary.

dollpartz · #**313** 02-08-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePrude

question mark. I find it funny that his dealings with that Rezko scumbag seem to have been conveniently overlooked here. And who knows what else the Republicans will dig up on him...

The Rezko thing is an issue for sure. And somewhat hard to get a handle on, at least for me, not being a realtor.

But Reps gotta be very careful with him. If they go after him in a dirty way (like they did Gore?), they'll be accused of racism. Whereas, Hillary with all her scandals will be open season. Yes, yes, she says only she can take it. But Obama's no softie she wishes he was and makes him out to be.

At least that's what I read in this Wall St. Journal article by Peggy Noonan

Declarations - WSJ.com

herekitty · #**314** 02-08-2008, 11:42 PM

I don't have time right now to respond to people who responded to my post etc but I did want to say hot damn. I actually never found him that attractive but after seeing this pic I can see why people do. and he went by barry, lol. makes me think of barry white. secks.

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Originally Posted by ironhills

but also I wanted to post this link:
TIME Poll: Clinton More Beatable than Obama - Yahoo! News

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By MICHAEL DUFFY/WASHINGTON Fri Feb 8, 4:55 PM ET

Though the real election is nine months away, Sen. Barack Obama would fare slightly better than Sen. Hillary Clinton in a head to head match-up with Sen. John McCain if the general election were held today, a new TIME poll reveals.
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Obama captured 48% of the vote in the theoretical match-up against McCain's 41%, the TIME poll reported, while Clinton and McCain would deadlock at 46% of the vote each. Put another way, McCain looks at the moment to have a narrowly better chance of beating the New York Senator than he does the relative newcomer from Illinois.

The difference, says Mark Schulman, CEO of Abt SRBI, which conducted the poll for TIME, is that "independents tilt toward McCain when he is matched up against Clinton But they tilt toward Obama when he is matched up against the Illinois Senator." Independents, added Schulman, "are a key battleground."

For much of the year, Democrats have enjoyed a wide margin over any Republican rival in theoretical match-ups. Those margins have begun to shrink in recent weeks.

According to the new poll, Democratic voters favor Clinton over Obama for the Democratic nomination by a margin of 48% to 42%.

Seventy percent of the voters polled by TIME said Bill Clinton's recent performance on the campaign trail had "no influence" on whether they were more or less likely to vote for his wife. Nineteen percent of voters said Clinton's recent comments made them less likely to vote for her; nine percent of voters said it made them more likely to vote for her.

The poll also sampled all voters' views of several possible vice presidential choices - and their various impacts on a potential race. According to the survey results, 62% of likely voters want Hillary Clinton to name Obama as her running mate. By contrast, only 51% of the same voters want Obama to return the favor. The same voters, by a margin of 55% to 11%, believed that Obama would help rather than hurt Clinton's chances were he to become her running mate. If Obama tapped Clinton as his running mate, that margin shifted, with 38% saying it would help his chances and 31% saying it would hurt.

The survey of nearly 1,000 likely registered voters was conducted February 1 through February 4, before Super Tuesday and the departure from the Republican race of former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney.
View this article on Time.com

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and also this one:
Obama leads Clinton by only 2 delegates - Yahoo! News

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By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 18 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Three days after the voting ended, the race for Democratic delegates in Super Tuesday's contests was still too close to call. With nearly 1,600 delegates from Tuesday contests awarded, Sen. Barack Obama led by two delegates Friday night, with 91 delegates still to be awarded. Obama won 796 delegates in Tuesday's contests, to 794 for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, according to an analysis of voting results by The Associated Press.
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In the Republican contest, Sen. John McCain had a commanding lead in the race for delegates.

Nearly a third of the outstanding delegates are from Colorado, a state where Obama won the popular vote. California, a state that Clinton carried, had 20 Democratic delegates still to be awarded. Neither state expected to have complete results before next week.

Obama won the popular vote in 13 states Tuesday, while Clinton won in eight states and American Samoa.

In the overall race for the nomination, Clinton has 1,055 delegates, including separately chosen party and elected officials known as superdelegates. Obama has 998.

A total of 2,025 delegates are need to secure the Democratic nomination.

Many delegates were outstanding because some states have been unable to provide all the votes in some congressional districts. The problems arose in states with counties that are split into multiple congressional districts.

The states have provided results in each county. But in some cases, they are still working to assign the votes in the appropriate congressional district.

Those votes are important because both parties award delegates based on statewide votes and on results in individual congressional districts. Democrats award them proportionally, meaning precise counts can be necessary, even when the vote is overwhelmingly in favor of one candidate.

In California, officials were still counting absentee ballots Friday. Officials had estimated that more than 1 million absentee ballots may have been submitted.

In Tuesday's Republican contests, McCain won 617 delegates to 205 for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who suspended his campaign on Thursday. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee won 155 and Rep. Ron Paul won 10. There are still 36 Republican delegates to be awarded from Tuesday's contests.

In the overall race for the nomination, McCain leads with 719, to 198 for Huckabee and 14 for Paul. Romney's suspended campaign still has 298 delegates.

A total of 1,191 delegates are needed to secure the Republican nomination.

The AP tracks the delegate races by projecting the number of national convention delegates won by candidates in each presidential primary or caucus, based on state and national party rules, and by interviewing unpledged delegates to obtain their preferences.

In some states, like Iowa and Nevada, local precinct caucuses are the first stage in the allocation process. The AP uses preferences expressed in those caucuses to project the number of national convention delegates each candidate will have when they are chosen at county, congressional district or state conventions.

JFL · #**315** 02-09-2008, 09:57 AM

Hillary '08