Welcome to the kittyradio.com forums.
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. Remove these ads when you register. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!
If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us. | 
02-13-2008, 06:10 PM
|  | Used to be an E-bow | | Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 913
| | Unless of course you were debating Hillary and Obama in this thread, therefore referencing your point within the context other people would be familiar.
And I don't hate Obama, I just prefer Hillary. Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtyplotte  it just wouldnt ever occur to me to reference this thread in ny argument concerning hillary or obama. and if i did use this thread as a reference i would have been sure to have actually read the articles. the one i posted here shows very clearly how hillary vacillates and obama does not. youre doing the old war is peace freedom is slavery rhetoric. hillary flip flops. period. always has and always will. find another reason to hate obama. | |
02-13-2008, 06:28 PM
|  | Married Misanthropist | | Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,660
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by vegyrex You mean dollpartz not dirtyplotte. And I disagree about the relevance of my attack on Ron Paul. I think they're very relevant. | My bad dirty, yes, dollpartz. And it wasn't relevant to me asking for an answer to that question. You just decided to attack anyway. Quote: |
I disagree about misreading your posts.
| Ok, but you've said i've said things i haven't even said. Or didn't say what I did. Quote:
I don't think much more can be said about this without the discussion turning circular.
| true.
__________________ "How wrong it is for a woman to expect the man to build the world she wants, rather than to create it herself."
"I postpone death by living, by suffering, by error, by risking, by giving, by losing."
"I will not be just a tourist in the world of images, just watching images passing by which I cannot live in, make love to, possess as permanent sources of joy and ecstasy. " -from the goddess that is Anaïs Nin |
02-13-2008, 07:02 PM
|  | stirred... rarely shaken | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northwest
Posts: 599
| | | So I found out some disturbing news
A very good friend of mine (love & trust her dearly) whose significant other is very involved in the Democratic Party (not only as a benefactor but potential political hopeful on a small scale himself) told me that they knew of several instances where, during our state's caucuses, unregistered but otherwise Repugnicans were turning out to vote for Obama.
Unfortunately we are all unsure how to interpret this. Obama is certainly left of HC, one would think. ??? |
02-13-2008, 09:02 PM
|  | Registered Member | | Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 6,308
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by bodah A very good friend of mine (love & trust her dearly) whose significant other is very involved in the Democratic Party (not only as a benefactor but potential political hopeful on a small scale himself) told me that they knew of several instances where, during our state's caucuses, unregistered but otherwise Repugnicans were turning out to vote for Obama.
Unfortunately we are all unsure how to interpret this. Obama is certainly left of HC, one would think. ??? | Don't read too much into that. Repubs say a Hillary presidency will energize the GOP to retake congress like they did in '04 when Bill was president. They say the same thing about Obama. |
02-13-2008, 10:32 PM
|  | like you anymore | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,922
| | | I wonder if some of the Obama votes are really just anti-Hillary votes. It's amazing how she went from an anticipated front-runner a few short months ago to this. The media is doing their share in making it seem over for her.
I know that technically this is far from over, but the timing of it all (Obama's string of wins) affects the whole psychology of the campaign. Perhaps her supporters in Texas and Ohio will be disheartened and just not bother showing up to vote in those primaries. Even if she wins big there, it's being reported that it will be too close to call and it's going to come down to the superdelegates to decide. Bad news for the Democrats. |
02-13-2008, 10:39 PM
| | Married Misanthropist | | Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,660
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePrude I wonder if some of the Obama votes are really just anti-Hillary votes. | Actually, that may be how we got Obama in the first place. A lot of people didn't want to deal with the Clintons again and they were desperate for an alternative.
__________________ "How wrong it is for a woman to expect the man to build the world she wants, rather than to create it herself."
"I postpone death by living, by suffering, by error, by risking, by giving, by losing."
"I will not be just a tourist in the world of images, just watching images passing by which I cannot live in, make love to, possess as permanent sources of joy and ecstasy. " -from the goddess that is Anaïs Nin |
02-13-2008, 11:32 PM
|  | ********* | | Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 865
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by bodah A very good friend of mine (love & trust her dearly) whose significant other is very involved in the Democratic Party (not only as a benefactor but potential political hopeful on a small scale himself) told me that they knew of several instances where, during our state's caucuses, unregistered but otherwise Repugnicans were turning out to vote for Obama.
Unfortunately we are all unsure how to interpret this. Obama is certainly left of HC, one would think. ??? | This sounds like just the kind of thing the Clintons would plant. The GOP would have a better chance of a win with Hillary on the ballot. |
02-14-2008, 12:49 AM
| | Registered Member | | Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 239
| | I'm tired of these Godless left-wing fascists spewing the same stagnant message of change and experience when we all know that they're just leading us to the depth of Hell with their fag-enabling cookie-cutter bullshit. You want change? I'm with Mike fucking Huckabee, let's change the constitution so it fits in better with God's word. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Mike Huckabee I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution. But I believe it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. And thats what we need to do is amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than trying to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view of how we treat each other and how we treat the family. | Seriously, if this asshole is VP I'm moving to Papua New Guinea. I honestly don't care if its Clinton or Obama anymore: she's a bitch and he's a dreamer but they're practically the same person. Just don't let this extremist anywhere near the white house. |
02-14-2008, 09:49 AM
| | ~*string puppet*~ | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Канада
Posts: 832
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by vegyrex No way he doesn't know who it is. Considering the people that are his most ardent supporters and his past views which were revealed in those newsletters he published back in the 80's and 90's. | Well, if you can show me something that proves he knew who it was ... otherwise I'm afraid I can't just take yer word for it. 
His past views ... well he said those comments were not written by him, and he doesn't agree with them... And nobody thinks they were written by him. He claims he was busy in those days with his medical practice and wasn't aware that at some point somebody had decided to use the newsletter to express their twisted views. I dunno, if I knew of anything solid, I would drop him in a minute, like, if it came out Don Black was his campaign manager.  .
But there's nothing leading up to it, or following it, that I know of.
His most ardent supporters ... not sure what that means. His supporters are mostly libertarians, and many of em may be ardent. Paul said his hero was Martin Luther King, by the way ...
PS I saw a photo of Hillary and Bush standing side-by-side, waving gleefully at the crowd. Does that mean Hillary is in Bush's corner?
Last edited by dollpartz : 02-14-2008 at 09:58 AM.
|
02-14-2008, 09:49 AM
|  | give me the sickest one. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: fox in the snow
Posts: 7,940
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by bodah A very good friend of mine (love & trust her dearly) whose significant other is very involved in the Democratic Party (not only as a benefactor but potential political hopeful on a small scale himself) told me that they knew of several instances where, during our state's caucuses, unregistered but otherwise Repugnicans were turning out to vote for Obama.
Unfortunately we are all unsure how to interpret this. Obama is certainly left of HC, one would think. ??? | i mentioned that earlier on right after i went to the caucus. i met several independants and repubs who were there to vote for obama because they hate hillary so much and they also didnt like the repub candidates and wanted someone decent to vote for.
__________________
the cave mouth shines
by pure force of will
i look down on the world
from the top of this lonesome hill
and you can run, and run some more
from here all the way to singapore
but i will carry you home in my teeth
-mountain goats |
02-14-2008, 09:56 AM
| | give me the sickest one. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: fox in the snow
Posts: 7,940
| | |
__________________
the cave mouth shines
by pure force of will
i look down on the world
from the top of this lonesome hill
and you can run, and run some more
from here all the way to singapore
but i will carry you home in my teeth
-mountain goats |
02-14-2008, 09:58 AM
| | ~*string puppet*~ | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Канада
Posts: 832
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by Zion I'm tired of these Godless left-wing fascists spewing the same stagnant message of change and experience when we all know that they're just leading us to the depth of Hell with their fag-enabling cookie-cutter bullshit. You want change? I'm with Mike fucking Huckabee, let's change the constitution so it fits in better with God's word.
Seriously, if this asshole is VP I'm moving to Papua New Guinea. I honestly don't care if its Clinton or Obama anymore: she's a bitch and he's a dreamer but they're practically the same person. Just don't let this extremist anywhere near the white house. |  |
02-14-2008, 12:43 PM
| | give me the sickest one. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: fox in the snow
Posts: 7,940
| | mccain sees obama as his major threat Obama will beat McCain - Diane Francis
__________________
the cave mouth shines
by pure force of will
i look down on the world
from the top of this lonesome hill
and you can run, and run some more
from here all the way to singapore
but i will carry you home in my teeth
-mountain goats |
02-14-2008, 12:45 PM
| | give me the sickest one. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: fox in the snow
Posts: 7,940
| | |
__________________
the cave mouth shines
by pure force of will
i look down on the world
from the top of this lonesome hill
and you can run, and run some more
from here all the way to singapore
but i will carry you home in my teeth
-mountain goats |
02-14-2008, 12:53 PM
| | stirred... rarely shaken | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northwest
Posts: 599
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePrude I wonder if some of the Obama votes are really just anti-Hillary votes. It's amazing how she went from an anticipated front-runner a few short months ago to this. The media is doing their share in making it seem over for her.
I know that technically this is far from over, but the timing of it all (Obama's string of wins) affects the whole psychology of the campaign. Perhaps her supporters in Texas and Ohio will be disheartened and just not bother showing up to vote in those primaries. Even if she wins big there, it's being reported that it will be too close to call and it's going to come down to the superdelegates to decide. Bad news for the Democrats. | Indeed, to everything you just said. It's like a teetertotter. |
02-14-2008, 01:04 PM
| | Registered Member | | Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 6,308
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by Zion I'm tired of these Godless left-wing fascists spewing the same stagnant message of change and experience when we all know that they're just leading us to the depth of Hell with their fag-enabling cookie-cutter bullshit. You want change? I'm with Mike fucking Huckabee, let's change the constitution so it fits in better with God's word.
Seriously, if this asshole is VP I'm moving to Papua New Guinea. I honestly don't care if its Clinton or Obama anymore: she's a bitch and he's a dreamer but they're practically the same person. Just don't let this extremist anywhere near the white house. | If McCain chooses Huckabee for VP he'll lose his support among independents. Conservative voters dislike both of them. |
02-14-2008, 01:43 PM
|  | Occam's chainsaw | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: goin down in a blaze of glory
Posts: 7,072
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtyplotte | yes. I can't keep up with this thread anymore but I posted this link a while ago and no one commented so I assume no one saw it. because it basically confirms what we've all suspected. It says if the race was held today, obama would beat mccain outright but clinton probably wouldn't. TIME Poll: Clinton More Beatable than Obama - Yahoo! News
here was my original post btw: http://kittyradio.com/soapbox/news-p...tml#post965253
I think maybe the link was overlooked because I put a pic of obama above it.  |
02-14-2008, 03:14 PM
| | stirred... rarely shaken | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northwest
Posts: 599
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by herekitty | Thanks. I saw it & appreciate but had no comment to make when I first read & saw the post. It says what it says.... and yes, Obama is a handsome bugger.
I hope if he does get the nom, that he is not smeared, or I hope that he can deflect the smears that will be attempted. Smearing IS the usual MO of Repugnicans.... and public opinion CAN be swayed by smear campaigns, no matter who the smear is directed at. The Repugs are just warming up their "Smear the Democratoc Nominee" mo-chine.
We already KNOW where they've been on the Hillary smear machine, and quite a bit has stuck. A small part might very well have some validity, which is why it has stuck, even with loyal Democrats. But a little is all they need for a strong woman to turn the masses off. There's no way a man would be judged with the same scrutiny HC is... but as human animals, we cannot change our instincts..... but I digress.... I agree it is refreshing, for the time being, to hear a far less calculated voice. This is what the public appears to want.
But consider the fact that HC is still as popular as she is (even if less popular than Obama at the moment), with all the smears against her over the past 12 years. What a testament to her tenacity, her longevity, and her tenure! | |
