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01-28-2008, 01:29 PM
|  | Woman Talking to Death | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brooklyn
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Originally Posted by ThePrude WildWoman, I hope my comment about Obama being "overwhelmed" didn't come off as having to do with his age/generation. It was his resume that I was questioning. I didn't read the article you mentioned, but I agree with you that it's bullshit for baby boomers to discount the rest of us. | No, and in fact I owe you an apology. I did mean to state that I was only using Fen’s question to you as a handy jumping-off point to be able to quote Obama being the same age as Bill when he was elected and then I never put it in. I was not directing that at you. Sorry.
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01-28-2008, 01:37 PM
|  | Gewürztraminer | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by Wildwoman No, and in fact I owe you an apology. I did mean to state that I was only using Fen’s question to you as a handy jumping-off point to be able to quote Obama being the same age as Bill when he was elected and then I never put it in. I was not directing that at you. Sorry. | no apology necessary...just wanted to make sure that my post wasn't misinterpreted. | 
01-28-2008, 01:44 PM
|  | stirred... rarely shaken | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northwest
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Originally Posted by fen99us Firing them means nothing. I remember a local political scandal with our former governor against our mayor at the time (is now our governor). The governor claimed, as well as the employee in question, that this employee acted on his own and he was fired. The employee even went on to apologize blah blah, whatever. Everyone knew it was done on purpose and the employee was a fall guy. He probably even got a pay out. I never trust that "oh but we fired him, see we're clean" BS. It's called taking one for the team. | Well I considered this position too, but one could just as easily say that they were Repugnican moles or something.... but I did check on Democratic Underground, and apparently calls of this nature did come from Clinton HQ.
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01-28-2008, 01:51 PM
|  | Vulcan | | Join Date: Apr 2006
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Originally Posted by Wildwoman Yeah, it’s A Thing for me. When I was in high school and didn’t know anyone else interested in my kind of politics and activism and such, I was obsessed with the 60s and wishing I’d been young then. I accept that a lot of the depth of my feelings come from this, but I don’t think I’m actually getting anything extremely wrong, and in the main, I’ve certainly never seen anyone of that generation question the idea that being who I am/was is being a ‘60s-type person.’ I do think identifying myself as an activist - or at least having done so for 20 years - causes these things to stand out a lot.
Then when I finally got my chance to study feminism and do activism it just seemed like we were still overshadowed by the 60s, like it could only belong to them. Then I started to get angry. I was involved in activism against the Gulf War and the one time I ever heard anyone admit such a thing existed on the news was someone talking about people spitting on soldiers coming home – 72 hours into the war, when no soldiers had actually returned home. I thought, wow, so my generation is being sent to war now, and still we don’t exist. | You know, I read your post and not long after read this: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/28/us...us&oref=slogin and it occurred to me that it would make more sense for babyboomers, at least the ones that were activist at the time, to support Obama. You're right when you say there is a bit too much obsession with themselves about it being "our time" as it was "our time" in the 60s. Why can't they let go, realize that they are older and that new blood is needed? They made the progress they did because of their passion AND their youth. Let's be real, when you get older, you get out of touch. I'm not even 30 yet and I'm way out of touch with teens today, let alone those kids that haven't been born yet. Why can't they step aside with some dignity and grace and support the next round of young folks that remind them of themselves?
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