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Old 02-12-2008, 10:02 PM
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They're not above criticism, but the shit that gets posted here is far from legitimate criticism.
I think it's tame. What would you call a legitimate criticism of Hillary?

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You don't hold back when you talk about Ron Paul. You basically got him fumbling around in a straight-jacket at a Hitler birthday bash.

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Nonsense. The little girl didn't feel ill treated by Chelsea Clinton. Thats very different from the story you posted.
Oh, well that's not why I presented it. I presented it to show the Clintons think they should be treated like royalty, and that's where her supporters here get their attitude that the Clintons should be treated like royalty.
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She said that she had asked Chelsea if she could take a picture with her. “She said, ‘Sure, I’d love that,’ and then she saw my press pass and said, ‘but I can’t answer any questions because you’re press.’”
Ya, she poses, we know.
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:18 PM
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So while you consider your choice of the candidates, just take any talk of affordable universal healthcare out of the equation.
We can add getting the troops out in less than 2 years too. I really wonder how that shit is going to play out, regardless of who wins.
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Now don't you Clinton haters feel bad?

Me thinks not.
What is there to feel bad about? I thought what the article said what was said to the little girl was still nice. The point remains the same however, her parents refuses to allow the press anywhere near her as if she's still a 12 year old. I think the link I posted illustrated this best.
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:29 PM
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I think it's tame. What would you call a legitimate criticism of Hillary?

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Tame? Its been anything but tame.

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You don't hold back when you talk about Ron Paul. You basically got him fumbling around in a straight-jacket at a Hitler birthday bash.
But Ron Paul not only has a racist past he still likes to take money from unsavory characters like Don Black. Don Black? Yeah, former Grand Dragon of Klu Klux Klan, and the founder and webmaster of Stormfront, a very racist website.



Don Black is the guy in the middle. Is Paul thanking him for the donation?


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Old 02-12-2008, 10:47 PM
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What is there to feel bad about? I thought what the article said what was said to the little girl was still nice.
Oh no it doesn't. Even the title of that article says Chelsea "brushes off" that little girl. It was meant as a jab at the Clintons and haters like yourself and the person who posted it will jump on it.

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The point remains the same however, her parents refuses to allow the press anywhere near her as if she's still a 12 year old. I think the link I posted illustrated this best.
No that link was another silly attempt to bash the Clintons. Since its Hillary's campaign she can control who speaks for her campaign and who doesn't. Especially a member of her family.
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Oh no it doesn't. Even the title of that article says Chelsea "brushes off" that little girl. It was meant as a jab at the Clintons and haters like yourself and the person who posted it will jump on it.
Er, I was talking about what was suppose to be the quote from Chelsea to the little girl. I thought what she was quoted as saying was nice.

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No that link was another silly attempt to bash the Clintons. Since its Hillary's campaign she can control who speaks for her campaign and who doesn't. Especially a member of her family.
No, that link states that we should be able to treat Chelsea like an adult. No one ask for her to speak on her mother's behalf. But she is showing her political standing and, er speaking on her mother's behalf at her mother's request. The press has a right to ask her questions about it, which of course, she can refuse to answer. But the press also has a right to comment on what they think of the situation without having a Clinton beat down their door...literally. You really missed that point in the article?
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Old 02-12-2008, 11:06 PM
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Er, I was talking about what was suppose to be the quote from Chelsea to the little girl. I thought what she was quoted as saying was nice.
You said nothing of the kind.

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Damn, I didn't read the story about the little girl, poor thing! Did you check the link about Chelsea I posted above?

ETA: That article makes her sound like Katie Holmes! Who knew she was a member of Scientology!?
You wanted to join the bashing.


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No, that link states that we should be able to treat Chelsea like an adult. No one ask for her to speak on her mother's behalf. But she is showing her political standing and, er speaking on her mother's behalf at her mother's request. The press has a right to ask her questions about it, which of course, she can refuse to answer. But the press also has a right to comment on what they think of the situation without having a Clinton beat down their door...literally. You really missed that point in the article?
I didn't miss anything. I saw that article for what it is: A hatchet job.
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Old 02-12-2008, 11:14 PM
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You said nothing of the kind.
Yes I did: "What is there to feel bad about? I thought what the article said what was said to the little girl was still nice." I didn't say anything else about the article beyond them making her sound like a brainwashed zombie. My comment before that was BEFORE even reading the article, which I stated.

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You wanted to join the bashing.
I don't have a problem with Chelsea Clinton, just her parents. But it wasn't her choice to be born to them.


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I didn't miss anything. I saw that article for what it is: A hatchet job.
It's obvious you missed something based on your comments about it.

So how about you answer dollpartz question instead of twisting it. What DO you consider to be a legitimate criticism of the Clintons?
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Old 02-12-2008, 11:42 PM
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We can add getting the troops out in less than 2 years too. I really wonder how that shit is going to play out, regardless of who wins.
agreed.
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What DO you consider to be a legitimate criticism of the Clintons?
Her voting record as senator. dollpartz loves to go on about Hillary's cooperate ties (which is really appalling coming from a Ron Paul supporter considering that fool will allow oil drilling in ANWR thus enriching the already full pockets of the oil corporations) but does Hillary's voting record show any signs of bending to the will of her cooperate benefactors? Her voting record on the environment is a million miles ahead of Ron Paul.
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Her voting record as senator. dollpartz loves to go on about Hillary's cooperate ties (which is really appalling coming from a Ron Paul supporter considering that fool will allow oil drilling in ANWR thus enriching the already full pockets of the oil corporations) but does Hillary's voting record show any signs of bending to the will of her cooperate benefactors? Her voting record on the environment is a million miles ahead of Ron Paul.
Hmm...why are you only focusing on dollpartz comments? You are accusing others (me) of jumping on the hate bandwagon. I don't need to blindlessly hate the woman, I feel my reasons are legitimate and I have stated them. I don't hate, for the sake of hating. How boring is that? But your defense of her seems like love for the sake of loving. It's weird. I mean even to the point of misreading and misconstruing posts.
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Hmm...why are you only focusing on dollpartz comments? You are accusing others (me) of jumping on the hate bandwagon. I don't need to blindlessly hate the woman, I feel my reasons are legitimate and I have stated them. I don't hate, for the sake of hating. How boring is that? But your defense of her seems like love for the sake of loving. It's weird. I mean even to the point of misreading and misconstruing posts.
vegy is posting actual reasons as to why he feels the way he does,
where as youre just being a brat and complaining about his debating tactics.
got off his/her ballsack already
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Old 02-13-2008, 12:26 AM
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vegy is posting actual reasons as to why he feels the way he does,
where as youre just being a brat and complaining about his debating tactics.
got off his/her ballsack already
It's not complaining about debating tactics, it's saying someone said something they didn't for crying out loud. Or assuming because you disagree with the mother and father that you would automatically disagree and "bash" the child. Why don't you fuck off already?
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Why don't you fuck off already?
ugh i wish youd do the same, you spam every courtney love - obamaclinton - saint heath related thread on here
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ugh i wish youd do the same, you spam every courtney love - obamaclinton - saint heath related thread on here
take a break
and you only know it because you are also in them. your point? a forum is for reading/posting in topics of interest to you. fucking duh. go check out that ignore function.
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and you only know it because you are also in them. your point? a forum is for reading/posting in topics of interest to you. fucking duh. go check out that ignore function.
yes i read them and notice your spamming. and i know what this forum is for, moron. but you dont need to jump down peoples throats just because you disagree with them.
take your own advice with the ignore function you fucking spazzzzzz
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Old 02-13-2008, 12:42 AM
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