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Old 01-28-2008, 12:59 PM
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OMG.... NASTY! I had no idea.

P.s...... Wait a sec though... the Clinton campaign FIRED them it says. That should say something, right? I don't know, it is really hard to tell... But it's try, why would a campaign hire someone with such questionable integrity if it didn't somehow mean for it to happen.

I will Google and see what happens.


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Old 01-28-2008, 01:08 PM
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About the babyboomers, WW, you seem to have had it really rough with them. Now I'm wondering if its because I've always isolated myself from groups in order to be free to have my opinion without it being limited by a majority opinion, but I wonder if it's more of a white thing than a black (any other color) thing. Because I feel no babyboomer pressure. But then again, you are a bit older than I am and I've never been a "activist" in the true sense of the word. What you are describing seems so repressive, I think I would go insane.

As far as the Clinton smear campaign. Who's surprised? This is what I kept saying about that woman. I don't care that she's a female, that's so utterly irrelevant. It's that her and Bill will do ANYTHING in their power to KEEP their position and to gain further power. If you can't see that in the history of what they've done their entire political lives, you're crazy! That's what pisses me off about the blacks that support the Clintons. What exactly have they done for us? I mean seriously? And isn't it a little more than obvious now that they will abandon us the second it no longer suits their needs?

How screwed up was it that Hillary, getting quite a bit of votes, flew off to Tenn after South Carolina? If she had won, would she have left? She couldn't even be decent enough to address her supporters there in their own state? Of course not, she was on to the next place which hadn't voted "against" her yet. Ugh, so beyond self absorbed these people are.
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Old 01-28-2008, 01:10 PM
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OMG.... NASTY! I had no idea.

P.s...... Wait a sec though... the Clinton campaign FIRED them it says. That should say something, right? I don't know, it is really hard to tell... But it's try, why would a campaign hire someone with such questionable integrity if it didn't somehow mean for it to happen.

I will Google and see what happens.
Firing them means nothing. I remember a local political scandal with our former governor against our mayor at the time (is now our governor). The governor claimed, as well as the employee in question, that this employee acted on his own and he was fired. The employee even went on to apologize blah blah, whatever. Everyone knew it was done on purpose and the employee was a fall guy. He probably even got a pay out. I never trust that "oh but we fired him, see we're clean" BS. It's called taking one for the team.
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Old 01-28-2008, 01:17 PM
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About the babyboomers, WW, you seem to have had it really rough with them. Now I'm wondering if its because I've always isolated myself from groups in order to be free to have my opinion without it being limited by a majority opinion, but I wonder if it's more of a white thing or black(any other color) thing. Because I feel no babyboomer pressure. But then again, you are a bit older than I am and I've never been a "activist" in the true sense of the word. What you are describing seems so repressive, I think I would go insane.
Yeah, it’s A Thing for me. When I was in high school and didn’t know anyone else interested in my kind of politics and activism and such, I was obsessed with the 60s and wishing I’d been young then. I accept that a lot of the depth of my feelings come from this, but I don’t think I’m actually getting anything extremely wrong, and in the main, I’ve certainly never seen anyone of that generation question the idea that being who I am/was is being a ‘60s-type person.’ I do think identifying myself as an activist - or at least having done so for 20 years - causes these things to stand out a lot.

Then when I finally got my chance to study feminism and do activism it just seemed like we were still overshadowed by the 60s, like it could only belong to them. Then I started to get angry. I was involved in activism against the Gulf War and the one time I ever heard anyone admit such a thing existed on the news was someone talking about people spitting on soldiers coming home – 72 hours into the war, when no soldiers had actually returned home. I thought, wow, so my generation is being sent to war now, and still we don’t exist.
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Old 01-28-2008, 01:26 PM
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WildWoman, I hope my comment about Obama being "overwhelmed" didn't come off as having to do with his age/generation. It was his resume that I was questioning. I didn't read the article you mentioned, but I agree with you that it's bullshit for baby boomers to discount the rest of us.

And dirtyplotte, if the Clintons are truly behind this whole Obama-Osama Muslim Hussein thing, then I have to say that I'm disgusted by them, and I hope she loses big time for it.
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