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Old 01-24-2008, 02:33 PM
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Well, to be fair, "small town America" sort of did cast their vote for the Black guy. Iowa's the only state he's won thus far.

And I am confident that it won't be a Republican no matter who the Dems elect. I know LOTS of older traditionally Republican Conservative voters who have turned toward Democrats in shame. And these people I know live in one of the most conservative states. (though non-bible-beltish, which could mark the difference).

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Watching the two of them gang up on Obama is disgusting. It's like he's said already--who is he running against, Bill or Hillary?

I'm officially sick of the two of them. They are proving true everything the "right wing conspiracists" ever said about them. If she manages to get the nomination, I'm voting for McCain.
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The bickering is unfortunate, because it reduces the chance of them ever being running-mates. I like them both, but if I had to choose (not that I can being Canadian), it would be Hillary. (Actually, as a Canadian, I should probably be hoping the Republicans win as many of their economic policies are more favourable for us.)

However, in the grand scheme of things, I do think the Democrats need to win this one. I guess Obama is probably more likely to get votes of independents and swing-voters. Too bad about the Hillary hate...I agree that much of it is sexism, although I do think there are people who legitimately hate her for other reasons. If "power-hungry" is one of them though, I'd like to ask them how any other cadiditate for the President of the USA is any less hungry?
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Watching the two of them gang up on Obama is disgusting. It's like he's said already--who is he running against, Bill or Hillary?

I'm officially sick of the two of them. They are proving true everything the "right wing conspiracists" ever said about them. If she manages to get the nomination, I'm voting for McCain.
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Thanx for the replies

A long time ago I thought McCain would be OK, but he's actually a bad news conservative "establishment-type" (worse than Hillary) as far as I am concerned.

Seems that this whole presidential race is a complete toss-up at this point, with the exception of the Obama charisma factor and the Clinton fundraiser factor, which seems to make those two just about equal on the playing field.

I found this website helpful: Glassbooth - Quiz to help you choose best 2008 presidential candidate and (big surprise) the candidate that most represents my views on issues is Kucinich. As far as a more viable candidate, I had more in common with Edwards than with Clinton or Obama - but only by a mere 2% margin. Clinton and Obama were equal in matching them with my beliefs/issues by about 70%. The viable Republican I had the most in common with was McCain.

I was hoping that my political opposite would be Mike Huckabee, but turns out it was Rudy Guiliani! -- which I find quite odd because I firmly believe homosexuals should have the same rights as everyone else, and women should have access to safe, legal abortion. However maybe it was because the gay rights issue to me was lower priority than many other issues facing the nation right now. My three highest priorities were education, the environment, and the economy-- because all humans are affected by them, regardless of race, class, gender, or sexual preference, and they all need attention lately. Education ("the great equalizer") was highest on my list of priorities because it affects other aspects of society (environment, tolerance of others' beliefs/differences, valuing freedom, finding solutions to problems, etc.) in a long-term way. Education has taken a turn for the worse in America in the past decade, and idiocracy will undoubtedly lead to more problems in the future.

Anyway, I hope you find the website useful. I found it to be one of the best tools available. Test it out. Take another turn with the exact opposite of your issues/beliefs and see which candidate it finds.(interesting!).
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