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01-27-2008, 03:00 PM
|  | strokin' bubbles d'monkey | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Actin' crazy n' pushin' up daisies
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Originally Posted by JFL  If Tyra Banks was two years older I'd rally for her. | 
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01-27-2008, 03:06 PM
|  | why u bullshittin' | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: nTown, UK
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| | | So do you only get to vote for one party in the caucus? Or can a democrat vote for which republican candidate he thinks the democrats could beat the most easily? |
01-27-2008, 03:08 PM
|  | Vulcan | | Join Date: Apr 2006
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Originally Posted by ThePrude It may be over for her, but I guess February 5th will be the date.
I have to admit that Bill Clinton's "involvement" left a sort of bad taste in my mouth. And the concept of dynastic politics is third worldish.
I don't know...I just see her as being the best leader. Obama is obviously more of a "statesman", but is that what's needed now? I think the US really needs a fighter bull dog in there right now - after 8 years of Bush basically sitting on his ass. McCain or Guliani seem like they'd be of that "mindset"...but I gotta side with the Democrats on most policies.
Edwards seems like a softy. Obama seems like he's at a stage in his career where becoming the President might be premature. (imho, he also seems a little to 'smooth', and I'm not sure I trust that). Will he get overwhelmed by it all? Hillary Clinton seems like a real 'fuckin' bitch'  (in both a good and bad way) with a good work ethic and with all of her "dirty laundry" already aired. My gut tells me she would do the best job right now.
Anyhow, I thought this article was interesting: | You know I love you Prude, but I don't think Obama seems nearly as smooth as Mr. Clinton did back in 1992 and hell, through out his presidency. As far as having a fighter bull dog, we have had that for the last 8 years, his name is Dick Cheney. I don't want a bull dog that has to pay off connections that I'm not fond of. I don't see how he'd get overwhelmed since he's made it rather clear that he wants to work with everyone on his policies. I think that's something people keep overlooking. There's no doubt that Hillary has everything worked out in her head, but she is the type (and she has already proven this), that will want things to go exactly how she planned instead of being open to the opinions of others. I think we need a President that is willing to work with people, not dictate.
Also, why do you think it seems premature for Obama? I'm assuming it's not age since Bill was the same age when he became President.
From Caroline Kennedy: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/op...in&oref=slogin
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01-27-2008, 03:25 PM
|  | Gewürztraminer | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by fen99us You know I love you Prude, but I don't think Obama seems nearly as smooth as Mr. Clinton did back in 1992 and hell, through out his presidency. As far as having a fighter bull dog, we have had that for the last 8 years, his name is Dick Cheney. I don't want a bull dog that has to pay off connections that I'm not fond of. I don't see how he'd get overwhelmed since he's made it rather clear that he wants to work with everyone on his policies. I think that's something people keep overlooking. There's no doubt that Hillary has everything worked out in her head, but she is the type (and she has already proven this), that will want things to go exactly how she planned instead of being open to the opinions of others. I think we need a President that is willing to work with people, not dictate.
Also, why do you think it seems premature for Obama? I'm assuming it's not age since Bill was the same age when he became President. | I love ya too fen! I'm just sort of thinking out loud. I have to admit that Bill Clinton was too smooth as well (but in a different and less endearing way).
Obama is smooth in a way that makes him look 'angelic', and I'm almost 100% sure that he is (i.e. I think he's a man of integrity). I guess by 'smooth' I mean he's sort of getting away with the whole "change" thing, while not really defining what he means by it, or the "how". It reminds me of someone who is very well-liked who moves up the corporate ladder too quickly, and as a result rises to the level of their own "inexperience"...Maybe he will be the best President ever, but it is sort of taking a chance on him.
Clinton may have been the same age, but he'd been governor, which as an executive position is much different than being a senator. |
01-27-2008, 07:03 PM
|  | Preening Douchebag | | Join Date: Jun 2007
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