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Old 02-21-2008, 08:00 PM
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No it doesn't. Not even close. Especially when that person states:

Biased much? That person was eager to find any reason NOT to support Clinton.
Huh? Apparently she didn't like either one of them.

Anyway, the bigger problem with that woman's research is the fact that Hillary decided to harp on the "all words, no action" thing when she KNEW it was B.S (my god she brought it up in the debate wth!? idiot!). She co-sponsored many of his bills ffs, she knew there was substance. She couldn't come up with a better attack?

And those people who continue to whine that Hillary is losing only because she's a woman, and oh the young charming guy is up front cuz he's a man, really? I mean you really believe that? You can't even admit that he has accomplished a shitload in the short time he has been on this earth? Why are his bills more aggressive than Hillary? Why does he have more co-sponsors if she has no problem working well with others? Why was he willing to sacrifice a fat ass paycheck in order to help people? I tell you, where I work, associates start at $160k, straight out of school. Let alone a guy who is the first black president of Harvard Law Review. He could have made a killing. But I'm sure he's all rhetoric with no action, uh huh.

People want to dismiss the Obama hype but have no problem listening to Hillary's hype against him. Why is that? Fuck the hype from either end, just research their accomplishments for the public.

And last, what the fuck is up with her campaign? She planned so poorly. I at the least expected her to get that right.

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Old 02-21-2008, 08:20 PM
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Anyway, the bigger problem with that woman's research is the fact that Hillary decided to harp on the "all words, no action" thing when she KNEW it was B.S (my god she brought it up in the debate wth!? idiot!).
A bigger question is why he is allowing her to away with it.
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Yeah the whole big states strategy was fine when Barack wasn't a viable candidate... I am really hoping for a Hillary blitzkrieg in the upcoming primaries
I've read her campaign has spent $175 million dollars. Did she spend it only on the big states? When she ran for the senate she conceded nothing to her opponent. She campaigned hard in heavily republican districts. With Obama, she seemed to concede most of the caucus states. Losing all but two caucus states wasn't good. It gave Obama the perception of being an unstoppable winner.
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Old 02-21-2008, 08:28 PM
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A bigger question is why he is allowing her to away with it.
Good point.
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Old 02-21-2008, 09:27 PM
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lol, wow...just...wow. absolutely unbelievable.
I stand by my comment, despite your attempt to belittle it. I've seen the same thing happen to colleagues of mine, and I see the parallels in the way the media in general has portrayed both candidates, and has been prone to belittling Hillary.

Fen, I realize that you have posted your legitimate concerns about Hillary as a candidate, and I respect your opinion. I just happen to have a different opinion. I truly believe she's getting the shaft because of Obama's "rockstar" appeal, and there is no way she can compete with that.

Everything else being equal, I just don't understand how people can overlook someone who has been privy to the intricacies of a Presidential administration for 8 years. How does this not trump any other type of experience? I know you want those papers released, and I agree that they should be, but that does not erase the fact that she was there and was active. It's a well-documented fact outside of those "papers".

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i know. bitter, much?
You're right, I am bitter for the reasons stated above. Anyway, you're right, I need to relax.

However, I appreciate the article you posted, and I will read it tomorrow when I have more time and comment then.

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Wow. Just wow.
wowwy wow wow wow

I watched the debate tonight, and I can totally see Obama's appeal. Perhaps he is ready to be President. I just think Hillary is more ready.
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