Obama or Clinton? - Page 122

dirtyplotte · #**606** 02-19-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fen99us

I don't expect Obama to write all of his speeches or all of them alone. I don't know of any politician that does. It doesn't undermine him as an orator. The idea to use those lines was extremely appropriate, however, it should have been credited. What I don't get is that since it wasn't word for word copying (the idea was copied and no politician is guiltless of that), and it was from a good friend of his, how is it such a big deal? How is that considered worse than stealing from your opponent?

and whats up with all the women being persecuted business? should we point out all the blacks being persecuted business? or is it because hillary isnt doing well it must be because shes female not because she's not as effective?

fen99us · #**607** 02-19-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtyplotte

and whats up with all the women being persecuted business? should we point out all the blacks being persecuted business? or is it because hillary isnt doing well it must be because shes female not because she's not as effective?

Yeah really. More and more I think those "iron my shirt" guys were a plant.

rozalia qual · #**608** 02-19-2008, 04:13 PM

i also don't understand how women's rights on a global level are relevant in a UNITED STATES election? it's awful the way some countries treat their women, but this is the US, where violent racism still exists within our borders and men who beat women are socially demonized and can expect jail time for it.

just two weeks ago in my city a white kid drove through a black neighborhood and shot people from his car, openly stating that he hates black people. fuck.

dirtyplotte · #**609** 02-19-2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fen99us

Yeah really. More and more I think those "iron my shirt" guys were a plant.

i over heard last night a bunch of white women at my work discussing obama in hushed tones (so the black women couldnt hear them. i'm a freak so im not part of their conspiratorial whispers.) they were saying that america just sint ready to see that face as a president.

so fuck clinton being a woman. i dont hear people saying THAT. i hear people saying they hate her, but they dont say shit like that just because of her body her soul is housed in,.

dirtyplotte · #**610** 02-19-2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rozalia qual

i also don't understand how women's rights on a global level are relevant in a UNITED STATES election? it's awful the way some countries treat their women, but this is the US, where violent racism still exists within our borders and men who beat women are socially demonized and can expect jail time for it.

just two weeks ago in my city a white kid drove through a black neighborhood and shot people from his car, openly stating that he hates black people. fuck.

and the dragging death and all the other hate crimes and how white people shooting black people are STILL never punished with the same amount of jailtime as when any black kills any person. and thats just part of a tiny scratch on the surface of racism in america.

nothing compared to discrimination against women in america. i mean if you want to get on your high horse about persecution, not being able to get paid as much as a man really isnt the same thing as fearing being lynched or dragged behind the back of a truck as evening entertainment.