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01-11-2008, 01:41 PM
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| | | separated at birth twins get married Separated-at-birth twins get married - Yahoo! News Quote:
Fri Jan 11, 12:15 PM ET
LONDON (AFP) - Twins who were separated at birth and adopted by different sets of parents later married each other without realising they were brother and sister, a peer has told the House of Lords.
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David Alton, an independent, pro-life member of the Lords, said the brother and sister were granted an annulment after a high court judge ruled that the marriage had never validly existed.
The Catholic politician -- who discovered the case after talking to a judge -- used it to highlight perceived deficiencies in the government's proposed Human Embryology and Tissues Bill, which is currently going through parliament.
The bill is designed to make it easier for lesbian and gay couples to have children through assisted reproduction, recognising same-sex partners as legal parents of babies conceived through donated sperm, eggs or embryos.
But it contains no provision to require the identity of the donor to be disclosed, potentially meaning a child could not be told they were conceived by assisted reproduction.
Alton raised the case of the married twins -- who were born after IVF treatment -- during a debate on December 10, details of which only appeared on Friday.
"There are implications for everybody involved, but the needs of the child will always be paramount, and it is right that we should therefore make the process as transparent as possible," Alton told the Lords.
IVF -- which increases the chances of multiple births -- meant such cases could become more common if the law does not require children to be told they were donor conceived and have access to their genetic history, he said.
"The right of children to know the identity of their biological parents is a human right," he added Friday.
"There will be more cases like this if children are not given access to the truth. The needs of the child must always be paramount."
The identities of the twins and details of their relationship and marriage have been kept secret, but it was known they were separated soon after birth and never told they were twins.
They only discovered they were blood relatives after the wedding.
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01-11-2008, 01:45 PM
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David Alton, an independent, pro-life member of the Lords
| It might not be so apparent to overseas users, but unlike in America, identifying oneself as "pro-life" in the UK is broadly considered to be the mark of an absolute fuck-end. The fact that he's citing this as a means to undermine a perfectly reasonable bill speaks volumes.
I'm assuming these weren't identical twins, otherwise they must be dumb as shit.
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01-11-2008, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Ophiel Ophiuci It might not be so apparent to overseas users, but unlike in America, identifying oneself as "pro-life" in the UK is broadly considered to be the mark of an absolute fuck-end. The fact that he's citing this as a means to undermine a perfectly reasonable bill speaks volumes. | yes, I think the press's treatment of him is extremely generous because the article doesn't give the impression that he's saying the laws favoring gay and lesbian adoption should be banned. It just makes it appear that he wants additional provisions. still a sneaky way of trying to make things more difficult, but if the press were anywhere near as liberal as some people seem to think, I believe they'd be a little more critical of the guy. and it looks like this is foreign press even. | 
01-11-2008, 02:07 PM
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| | | house of lords has fuck all power, only the power to delay, and so test the government's political will on this. pleasing our large bio-tech industry usually means these things get through, even when we had a catholic-in-all-but-name prime minister.
apparently siblings usually fancy each other if they don't know they're siblings
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01-11-2008, 02:10 PM
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| | If it was an American article, it might make more sense that they'd describe him as "pro-life". The term is very rarely used here, and yeah, it's usually by nutcases.
From what I understood of the article: - Twins get married because they didn't know they were twins
- Twins were in vitro children
- Therefore, in vitro children should be told that they are in vitro children, and if they had any brothers and sisters.
- HOWEVER, for some reason it'd be better if, instead of doing that, we also tell them who donated the sperm and eggs that made them, because this will help them somehow.
- ALSO, gays shouldn't have kids because of this. Um.
I don't know why, but I get the feeling I won't be the only one that struggles to follow that logic beyond the third point. | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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