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Ron Paul said that in Pakistan Mushyaff is supported by 8 percent of the people but USA sent them 10 billion in the last 5 years. But it falls on deaf ears. The other candidates will continue to support dictators. Only Ron Paul would stop it.
He's accused of favoring the rich. Yet who has all the drug company lobbyists, and other corporate lobbyists as their advisors, and strategists, and campaign managers? The other candidates. But oh no, they care about the people!! People first! Ya, really!
PS, oh, well, the 'people first' Clintons can always fall back on their $200,000 a shot speeches paid for by Citigroup.
Ha ha.
Last edited by dollpartz : 01-08-2008 at 10:58 PM.
lol, i like how he says "it looks like they're having some fun" just before they become an angry mob...
bunch of crazies! fox news does suck, though! it's really quite ridiculous and telling that they banned ron paul from their debate, yet he and Giuliani ran about even in new hampshire tonight.
and dollpartz, you do have a point, but obama's got us hoping for change even though it requires a willfull suspension of disbelief. i like his anti-corporate rhetoric, anyhow.
I had to laugh a little at the guy who mentioned "could we get arrested?" as well as at the blonde lady who turned around and asked an infuriated crowd to "shut up" as though it would have any effect.
Say what you want about both Obama and Paul, I think they're both amazingly needed in this election to wake a sleeping population. They've both invigorated the young and the apathetic, and my only worry is that after the excitement is over that they return to their previously apathetic state due to a feeling of defeat (the freshly charged, that is). And yes they're quite enthusiastic, to put it lightly, but almost everyone I've seen develop an interest in politics begins as zealous, then calms down a bit and becomes more pragmatic and focused and open. I hope I see that in these supporters in years to come. Maybe this will provoke some to consider a more realistic and beneficial change while still holding true to Ron Paul's honesty? 'Cause that's what's gained him his following above all I think, is his honesty. Hell, I'm generally a socialist, but his honesty sort of renewed a little hope to me, despite my disagreements.
I take a weird position on the election as a whole, though, which is why I suppose I can appreciate Ron Paul so much without agreeing on very many of his platforms.
Last edited by rozalia qual : 01-09-2008 at 03:41 AM.
I take a weird position on the election as a whole, though, which is why I suppose I can appreciate Ron Paul so much without agreeing on very many of his platforms.
Yep ... well USA got only a two-party system, so where is the variety gonna come from that means anything? Helps if it happens more within the parties. He represents what Reps used to be.
Uhm I found video of Ron Paul on Meet the Press ... they ask him all the tough questions and he comes out smelling like roses, if somebody wanna get a better feel for what he's about (four parts):
At the end he talks about the drift towards corporate fascism (soft fascism) .. how can he be for the rich only, if he speaks out against corporate fascism?? He is for individual rights, that's what he is for. Does any other candidate talk about this? No! Wonder why. Well just look at where their advisors come from!
He's on record calling Bush Sr 'a bum.'
Reagan was 'a dramatic failure.'
Huckleberry? He quotes Sinclair Lewis ''when fascism comes to this country, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross."
Also he talks about bringing troops home from Korea as well, and Japan, etc. Saving as much as income taxes bring in!
He says they left Vietnam and Vietnam is unified are doing fine, but they stay in Korea, and Korea is a mess.
Ron Paul '90s newsletters rant against blacks, gays
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A series of newsletters in the name of GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul contain several racist remarks -- including one that says order was restored to Los Angeles after the 1992 riots when blacks went "to pick up their welfare checks."
CNN recently obtained the newsletters -- written in the 1990s and one from the late 1980s -- after a report was published about their existence in The New Republic.
None of the newsletters CNN found says who wrote them, but each was published under Paul's name between his stints as a U.S. congressman from Texas.
Paul told CNN's "The Situation Room" Thursday that he didn't write any of the offensive articles and has "no idea" who did.
"When you bring this question up, you're really saying, 'You're a racist' or 'Are you a racist?' And the answer is, 'No, I'm not a racist,'" he said.
Paul said he had never even read the articles with the racist comments.
"I do repudiate everything that is written along those lines," he said, adding he wanted to "make sure everybody knew where I stood on this position because it's obviously wrong."
But that's not good enough, says one political veteran.
"These stories may be very old in Ron Paul's life, but they're very new to the American public and they deserve to be totally ventilated," said David Gergen, a CNN senior political analyst. "I must say I don't think there's an excuse in politics to have something go out under your name and say, 'Oh by the way, I didn't write that.'"
Paul, who is not considered a front-runner, has become an Internet phenomenon in the current race, raising tens of millions of dollars from a devoted online base, many of them young people drawn to his libertarian straight talk.
The controversial newsletters include rants against the Israeli lobby, gays, AIDS victims and Martin Luther King Jr. -- described as a "pro-Communist philanderer." One newsletter, from June 1992, right after the LA riots, says "order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks."
Another says, "The criminals who terrorize our cities -- in riots and on every non-riot day -- are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are. As children, they are trained to hate whites, to believe that white oppression is responsible for all black ills, to 'fight the power,' to steal and loot as much money from the white enemy as possible."
In some excerpts, the reader may be led to believe the words are indeed from Paul, a resident of Lake Jackson, Texas. In the "Ron Paul Political Report" from October 1992, the writer describes carjacking as the "hip-hop thing to do among the urban youth who play unsuspecting whites like pianos."
The author then offers advice from others on how to avoid being carjacked, including "an ex-cop I know," and says, "I frankly don't know what to make of such advice, but even in my little town of Lake Jackson, Texas, I've urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self defense. For the animals are coming."
In his interview with CNN, Paul said that's language he would never use. "People who know me, nobody is going to believe this," he said. "That's just not my language. It's not my life."
He added, "Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, Ghandi, they're the heroes [of my life]."
Matt Welch, the editor-in-chief of "Reason" magazine who shares some of Paul's beliefs on big government, says he has never heard the congressman make racist comments like those in the newsletters.
"What I think some people are looking for him to do is to say, 'OK, who wrote that?' I mean, there's 20 years, give or take, worth of newsletters there," Welch said.
Paul said the editor of publications "is responsible for daily activities." But he also cited "transition" and "changes" and said that some people were hired to write stories "but I didn't know their names."
The presidential hopeful described the newsletter revelations as a "rehash" of old material dug up by his opponents because he is gaining ground with black voters due to his stance against the war in Iraq and the war on drugs.
"I am the anti-racist because I am the only candidate -- Republican or Democrat -- who would protect the minority against these vicious drug laws," he said.
"Libertarians are incapable of being a racist, because racism is a collectivist idea."
He makes an excellent point on the judiciary system, however I don't understand how one can have a newsletterin one's name without reading everything over?
edit: okay, being a dr. and travelling does take up time but why then have a newsletter you can't look over? 'cause inevitably all the writings get tied back to you, whether or not you had anything to do with them.
He makes an excellent point on the judiciary system, however I don't understand how one can have a newsletterin one's name without reading everything over?
edit: okay, being a dr. and travelling does take up time but why then have a newsletter you can't look over? 'cause inevitably all the writings get tied back to you, whether or not you had anything to do with them.
Well every political candidate has to deal with smears. In a sense it gives you an idea of how they will handle smears as presidents.
Like Obama has had to deal with the muslim smear.
Huckabee pardoned a rapist who ended up raping and murdering someone the next year after being let go. I'm sure he told Huckabee he found Jesus.
Hillary, words that come out of her mouth at times she's had to address
People work to help with campaigns all the time. If you are busy not only running in politics but also delivering babies as an OB/GYN, I can see how some things could pass through the filter.
The funny thing is, alot of racist republicans hate Ron Paul and have hinted that if he is elected will "take him out" and I don't mean for dinner.
They have a problem with him because he wants out of the war now. They are scared of muslims, scared of arabs and still believe there are WMD's in Iraq!
Ron isn't going to get the republican ticket. Also those republicans who love Hunter, Thompson and Tancredo and Guliani claim Ron Paul is going to try to steal that republican vote.
I wish they would just adapt to their new name. Neo Con and be done with it already.
I watched Part 1 only up until he said "get rid of the Income Tax"...then I summed up that he's pretty much a quack.
Sorry...don't mean to be cunty, but.
Well, Americans never paid income tax until 1913, so it's not written in stone people should pay it. He's not against all taxes, either, just income tax ... Afterall it's letting people keep the money they earned.
He'll reduce spending to make up for the loss of revenue ... In the video he lists other means of revenue ......
He makes an excellent point on the judiciary system, however I don't understand how one can have a newsletterin one's name without reading everything over?
edit: okay, being a dr. and travelling does take up time but why then have a newsletter you can't look over? 'cause inevitably all the writings get tied back to you, whether or not you had anything to do with them.
Ya it's a screw-up, no doubt about it. And he gotta answer for it, just like anybody else. It bugs me CNN acting like it's all new revelations ... they musta had this sitting on their desk from the start, and they got a little worried with Paul talking about Corporatism, and word came down to go with it.
Thing is, Libertarianism attracts all sorts of people, including anarchists like me ....
Luftwaffe and I have been saying here, for a while, why the gold standard is necessary to the US econonmy obtaining some longevity.
The canadian dollar is now worth more. Last time we posted about the issue, the canadian dollar was monoply money.
Ha ha look what blowed in .....
Well a number of reasons for that, mainly cuz yer exports are much less than yer imports (partly cuz of the price of oil, but not all because of that, it's cuz USA don't produce as much as it consumes) ... there's a huge trade imbalance, as well, when you need money you just print more ...
Well every political candidate has to deal with smears. In a sense it gives you an idea of how they will handle smears as presidents.
Ya, at least he's getting some coverage on CNN for a change. Before this Fox and CNN didn't wanna admit that he existed. I think his anti-corporation rants have got the higher-ups a little peeved.
lol, i like how he says "it looks like they're having some fun" just before they become an angry mob...
bunch of crazies! fox news does suck, though! it's really quite ridiculous and telling that they banned ron paul from their debate, yet he and Giuliani ran about even in new hampshire tonight.
Wait until they ban him from the real thing. The last go around, they arrested two different candidates while dumb and dumber had a 'battle of wits' going on inside.
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The first report from St. Louis is in - and presidential candidates Michael Badnarik (Libertarian) and David Cobb (Green Party) were just arrested. Badnarik was carrying an Order to Show Cause, which he intended to serve the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD). Earlier today, Libertarians attempted to serve these same papers at the Washington, D.C. headquarters of the CPD - but were stopped from approaching the CPD office by security guards.
Fred Collins reported to me from the ground that Badnarik and Cobb are in great physical condition and great spirit.
As soon as more details are available, they will be posted here immediately.
This isn't a democracy, it's a two-party dictatorship. Must be why they support them so often.
even though it requires a willfull suspension of disbelief. i like his anti-corporate rhetoric, anyhow.
