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12-09-2007, 06:17 PM
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| | | Girl 'probably agreed' to have sex with nine men
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12-09-2007, 06:20 PM
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| | I think the judge is saying that she agreed but yes, was exploited. Quote: |
"But you were taking advantage of a 10-year-old girl and she needs to be protected, and the girls generally in this community need to be protected."
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12-09-2007, 06:23 PM
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| | | k don't even know what to say.
what happened to the men & i use the term MEN loosely |
12-09-2007, 06:25 PM
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| | | 6 mo, suspended for 12. now if it had been a white girl
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12-09-2007, 06:27 PM
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| | | yeah i think the judge's comments reflect that while she does recognise that consent was probably given, by the same token as a minor that consent basically means shit and that she was taken advantage of. the judge wasn't like, ZOMG, SHE WAS ASKING FOR IT. THAT TEN YEAR OLD WHORE. that said, i don't really agree with her.
white girl? oh wow. shitstorm.
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12-09-2007, 06:32 PM
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| | | btw, i meant white girl with white men. i wonder how much the leniency is to do with an attitude of "well aborigines do this stuff", if so it's curious that government is on one hand making a big bruhaha about aboriginal child abuse while on the other the judiciary is kind of condoning it
if so it's an interesting (and fucked up) mindset
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12-09-2007, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by petals  yeah i think the judge's comments reflect that while she does recognise that consent was probably given, by the same token as a minor that consent basically means shit and that she was taken advantage of. the judge wasn't like, ZOMG, SHE WAS ASKING FOR IT. THAT TEN YEAR OLD WHORE. that said, i don't really agree with her.
white girl? oh wow. shitstorm. | 
Sorry, I've wanted to post that for ages, this is the nearest thing to an appropriate moment that's come up. |
12-09-2007, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by shovelqueen SHE WAS 10! | Umm, Yah, Your country sucks ass hardcore.
Hi, this is the 21st century calling Aussies, pick up the fucking phone you backwoods cocksuckers. |
12-09-2007, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ScarySharri Umm, Yah, Your country sucks ass hardcore.
Hi, this is the 21st century calling Aussies, pick up the fucking phone you backwoods cocksuckers. | where you from. belgium?
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12-09-2007, 06:54 PM
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| | | The porns that look the most rapey are Brazilian and East Europe. |
12-09-2007, 06:58 PM
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| | | i was thinking of the mark dutroux pedophile ring. dutroux was a big cure fan, apparently. and belgian civilisation goes back at least to charlemagne
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12-09-2007, 07:18 PM
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| | | hown fucking post modern of the judge
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12-09-2007, 07:19 PM
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| | im sorry. i just cant get over this. i hacve a sick feeling in my stomach. this girl isnt protected because of what the judge deems to be aboriginal cultural norms?  
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12-09-2007, 07:25 PM
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| | | i dont quite see where the consent bit comes into it, she's ten, i don't think she is really capable of giving consent to that, so why is it taken into consideration? i mean, okay, they didnt hold her down, but still
kesh raised an interesting point |
12-09-2007, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dirtyplotte im sorry. i just cant get over this. i hacve a sick feeling in my stomach. this girl isnt protected because of what the judge deems to be aboriginal cultural norms? | well it doesn't say that directly, does it? and i'm not sure if cultural norms is the way i'd have put it. more like allowances for behaviour perceived as typical, but which is actually just disguising the lesser value placed on an aborigine child by the judge
but i'm totally guessing
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12-09-2007, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by kesh well it doesn't say that directly, does it? and i'm not sure if cultural norms is the way i'd have put it. more like allowances for behaviour perceived as typical, but which is actually just disguising the lesser value placed on an aborigine child by the judge
but i'm totally guessing | i was giving her the benefit of the doubt
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12-09-2007, 08:41 PM
| | ive got nothing to say | | Join Date: Apr 2006
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| | | laws for juvenile crime and offenders are different to the laws for adult offenders. before you start getting off your bike, the sentencing remarks should be read in full context of the facts and the circumstances.
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12-09-2007, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cantankerous laws for juvenile crime and offenders are different to the laws for adult offenders. before you start getting off your bike, the sentencing remarks should be read in full context of the facts and the circumstances. | the full context was that they didn't force her, okay, that would be fair enough if she wasn't ten years old. her age makes any notion of consent meaningless, so i dont particularly see why they have been given lenient sentences based on that.
and a 28 and 26 year old were involved ffs |
12-09-2007, 09:00 PM
| | ive got nothing to say | | Join Date: Apr 2006
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Originally Posted by never was the full context was that they didn't force her, okay, that would be fair enough if she wasn't ten years old. her age makes any notion of consent meaningless, so i dont particularly see why they have been given lenient sentences based on that.
and a 28 and 26 year old were involved ffs | have you read the sentencing remarks, have you? ive just had a hunt around for them and i can't seem to locate them. if you've somehow got them, link them please.
a judge is accountable for decisions made by him/her. do you honestly believe that the judge would make that kind of decision/remark in that context? a judge, of all people, udnerstands the concept of the age of consent, better than you, i or most lay people. that judge would have had the benefit of the DPP making lengthy submissions on the offence, lengthy submissions by each defence counsel for mitigating circumstances as well personal circumstances. you haven't read those transcripts.
legislation for young offenders has a different purpose than leglislation for adult offenders. they are dealt with differently UNLESS and UNTIL an application is made for them to be sentenced/put on trial as adults (generally for the gravity and nature of the offence) - its not clear whether that happened in this case.
its not even clear what the sentences were for the adults. all it says is that they haven't spent time in jail.
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12-09-2007, 09:14 PM
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