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11-29-2007, 05:13 PM
|  | give me the sickest one. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: fox in the snow
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| | | i think youre the one out of your flippin mind, bodah., as per the usual. Quote:
Originally Posted by bodah Sounds like some neighbors are hyperbolizing and need to do something more constructive than harass their nasty neighbors -- sounds like they're just as nasty as that mom is, and that to me is almost scarier than a single meanspirited individual. | hmmm no nowhere here does it even insinuate that the vigilantes are worse than the single weirdo. Quote: |
I have a lot of problems with a law against someone who "coerces" a suicide... because that could be morphed into convicting innocent people.
| hmmm nowhere here do you talk about laws which are in no way being brought into play. "assisited suicide law" pardon me if i didnt spell out assisted suicide, bodah.
you go on pretending that you dont say things ok? whatever makes you feel better about yourself.
__________________ the cave mouth shines
by pure force of will
i look down on the world
from the top of this lonesome hill
and you can run, and run some more
from here all the way to singapore
but i will carry you home in my teeth
-mountain goats | 
11-29-2007, 05:20 PM
|  | give me the sickest one. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: fox in the snow
Posts: 7,940
| | [quote=bodah;918937] Quote: |
Society looks for someone to blame when something awful happens. This mom may share in some blame, but clearly, this child had problems..... and you never know, the girl may have considered suicide apart from this woman's suggestion.
| and this MOM who is decades older and wiser than this teen girl had intimate knowlege of her vulnerabilities and used them against her in the most malicious fashion one could imagine. thats much more than sharing in "some" of the blame. thats pretty heavy handed manipulation and deceit. people in business go to jail for decades for doing htings like this. Quote: |
How many times do people tell each other "drop dead"?..... or say something mean like: "maybe the world would be a better place without you"? It would be crazy to prosecute someone for "murder" every time a person committed suicide after that.
| again she has INTIMATE knowlege of this girls vulnerabilites. you dont go telling someone to kill themselves when you know they are suicidal. that is out of the question wrong. Quote: |
I think that mother should be punished for inveigling (decieving) a child, but for "murder"? Let's get real... she wasn't holding the rope, or a gun to the kid's head.
| and again, here you go on baout "murder" laws when no one has said any such thing. of course you arent really saying this right? because you enver said such a thing. Quote: |
Learn what hyperbolizing is. Hyperbolizing someone's misdeeds does not lead to justice. That's not sticking up for the mom-- it's just saying no to revenge.
| ?? i think you should learn what humanity means.
__________________ the cave mouth shines
by pure force of will
i look down on the world
from the top of this lonesome hill
and you can run, and run some more
from here all the way to singapore
but i will carry you home in my teeth
-mountain goats | 
11-29-2007, 05:23 PM
|  | Silvine | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: lol
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| | I like the Myspace angle. It reminds me of headlines like these:  | 
11-29-2007, 06:30 PM
|  | Bakers Dozen | | Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by BleedingHeart That woman will have to live with that for the rest of her life. | It sounds like she doesn't give much of a shit that her actions drove a child to suicide. If there was any sexual talk she should be prosecuted at least as a child sexual predator. It might not be the best solution but it would send her to jail for a bit.
I say we hang her child. An eye for an eye. | 
11-29-2007, 06:34 PM
|  | Bakers Dozen | | Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by bodah Do the vigilantes want this deceitful woman to kill herself too? ... and if so, what would that solve? Would the community feel more righteous?
| Yes and Everything and HELL YES!
Selfish bitches like Lori Drew need to be removed from this planet. | 
11-29-2007, 08:31 PM
|  | give me the sickest one. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: fox in the snow
Posts: 7,940
| | | while i wouldnt want tthis women to kill herself, shes a mother for land sakes, i DO want her to seek serious help to sort her serious as fuck mental issues. and i think the house should be investigated to ensure that nothing untoward is happening to her children. she not only needs to realise what shes done she needs to work her ass off to try and assuage some of the pain the entire community is feeling.
__________________ the cave mouth shines
by pure force of will
i look down on the world
from the top of this lonesome hill
and you can run, and run some more
from here all the way to singapore
but i will carry you home in my teeth
-mountain goats | 
11-29-2007, 08:45 PM
| | whatever. | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: shitty city, usa.
Posts: 504
| | | Obviously the lady has a bunch of mental issues, but a suicide is going to happen regardless.
I think the parents of the daughter that offed herself should have been more aware of the signs. She was obviously already depressed and had been for quite sometime prior to her creating a myspace account.
firstly, though my sister had accounts before she was 14 (she's 15 now) the sign-up age IS 14. not to say this is "an OK age for internet useage" because i think it varies, but there's got to be some social fuckery bound to happen with 10/11/12/13 year olds signing up earlier and conversing with mean as fuck high school students. or in this case, crazy batshit parents/people. my mom monitored that shit like you wouldn't believe. & i also friended her & reminded her of who not to talk too. but crazy shit still happened to her (ie: dotty stealing her pictures)
the parents of the girl obviously knew that this girl was on myspace, & should have questioned the whole interaction with a boy earlier. they knew about josh evans prior. first of all their daughter IS 13. personally, not an age i'd actively support my child getting a BF. especially one so socially sensitive & i'm assuming had a lot of self esteem issues. I mean I had a bf at that age, but my parents weren't for it. He also was a real boy & was't praying upon me on the internet.
And apparently the parents "did all they can"... but i don't think that's the case. the girl should have obviously been in therapy way before myspace. I've seen the girls house, they weren't poor so there's no excuse for that. & the computer shouldn't have been in the girls room. she should have also been required to give her mom & dad the password/login to the myspace acct considering she was younger than the required sign up age.
i don't know i think the girl was just fkn depressed. & i'm not going to lie. I watched the interview with her parents on tv. & i think I'd be a miserable fucking kid too. there was something else going on behind those doors way worse than "josh evans." that was just the straw that broke the camels back. & obviously not right, still i hold the parents just as responsible as the crazy batshit mom 4 doors down.
ps; i totally didn't read the thread so if someone said the same thing earlier. sry tl;dr. | 
11-29-2007, 09:15 PM
|  | My Mirrors Are Black | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Olympia.
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| | | I read about this in people magazine, I thought it was disgusting. | 
11-29-2007, 09:31 PM
|  | AWAY!!! On Vacation! | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northern California
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtyplotte while i wouldnt want tthis women to kill herself, shes a mother for land sakes, i DO want her to seek serious help to sort her serious as fuck mental issues. and i think the house should be investigated to ensure that nothing untoward is happening to her children. she not only needs to realise what shes done she needs to work her ass off to try and assuage some of the pain the entire community is feeling. | When I was about 12 my parents were ordered by the court to psychological counseling. It probably saved my life in all actuality. | 
11-30-2007, 02:55 AM
|  | disappearing one | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Scotland
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Originally Posted by breakinthelaw And apparently the parents "did all they can"... but i don't think that's the case. the girl should have obviously been in therapy way before myspace. I've seen the girls house, they weren't poor so there's no excuse for that. & the computer shouldn't have been in the girls room. she should have also been required to give her mom & dad the password/login to the myspace acct considering she was younger than the required sign up age. | The parents were actually the only two with Megan's password - if she wanted to log on, they had to do it for her. And I can only assume they were monitoring it. It seems like it all came to a head pretty rapidly, from what I read, and they didn't have a chance to catch it and actually sit her down and talk the problem through. And the kid also disobeyed her mother's order to log off when her mother was leaving the house from something, and if she'd done so I guess it would have bought the parents some time. So that's a shame.
Agreed with the therapy thing. It sounds like the kid had maybe had therapy in the past, b/c I think she had been on anti-depressants? But that should have been ongoing if the kid was still having problems.
__________________ Deux hommes font une promenade amicale. L'un des deux porte un parapluie à son bras.
Il se met à pleuvoir. L'homme n'ouvre pas son parapluie et l'autre lui demande pourquoi.
- Parce que ça ne servirait à rien, lui répond son ami. Il est plein de trous.
- Alors, pourquoi l'as-tu pris?
- Parce que je ne pensais pas qu'il pleuvrait. | 
11-30-2007, 11:06 AM
|  | AWAY!!! On Vacation! | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northern California
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Originally Posted by Black Mambo The parents were actually the only two with Megan's password - if she wanted to log on, they had to do it for her. And I can only assume they were monitoring it. It seems like it all came to a head pretty rapidly, from what I read, and they didn't have a chance to catch it and actually sit her down and talk the problem through. And the kid also disobeyed her mother's order to log off when her mother was leaving the house from something, and if she'd done so I guess it would have bought the parents some time. So that's a shame.
Agreed with the therapy thing. It sounds like the kid had maybe had therapy in the past, b/c I think she had been on anti-depressants? But that should have been ongoing if the kid was still having problems. | Unfortunately though, my father started threaten me with death because he didn't want to go to counseling for his problems. I guess he figured it was my fault for telling on him. | 
12-02-2007, 06:40 AM
|  | Call me.....PLEASE | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North Miami Beach, Florida
Posts: 2,860
| | I hope at the very least that Kittyradio members do not believe everything they see, read and/or hear on the internet..
Before you believe you must do your research...
That is sad that someone created a hoax that drived girl to commited suicide. | 
12-02-2007, 10:01 AM
|  | doing what i can | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: falling off the edge of my mind
Posts: 716
| | | ok it was wildwomyn who said she didn't have any friends | 
12-02-2007, 12:52 PM
| | Registered Member | | Join Date: May 2007
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| | | sounds like something a kittyradio member would do to another person. Act all friendly but have a hidden mean agenda. Bunch of Heathers.
With the exception of Brooke, Trace, Chyia, Calalove, Emily34695 and dee_bourgeois
The rest of you are just a bunch of Heathers and Amandas. Yes even if you are male you are a Heather.
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12-02-2007, 09:05 PM
|  | u bet i'll b ur boyfriend | | Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 930
| | Yeah, I could imagine doing something like that. Of course, I would justify it by saying it was done to me
The only thing stopping me from ruining HCH's personal life is laziness and a possible KR ban  | 
12-02-2007, 09:21 PM
|  | u bet i'll b ur boyfriend | | Join Date: May 2007
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Originally Posted by dirtyplotte you dont go telling someone to kill themselves when you know they are suicidal. that is out of the question wrong. | Yet it all the time happens on the internet. | 
12-02-2007, 09:36 PM
|  | Female Chauvinist Pig | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: I am the Rain
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Originally Posted by creepyer When I was about 12 my parents were ordered by the court to psychological counseling. It probably saved my life in all actuality. |
Point taken. If the internet was a big thing then, your parents would have been locking you out of their room and taking sexy pictures of themselves and posting them on the internet for other kids to look at.
I don't know what happened to you exactly, but I can imagine... and I can commiserate.
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l'avatar and ktlr lick up the overflow | 
12-03-2007, 03:29 AM
|  | et dieu cree la femme | | Join Date: Aug 2006
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| | | what i wonder is: let's say the girl hadn't killed herself and was just emotionally devastated, what the hell kind of message was the woman posing as josh trying to send to her daughter? that's some kind of fucked up life lesson. my mom wouldn't even get involved with my brother and i fighting, let alone when i fought with my friends when i was 13. it seems very, VERY bizarre. | 
12-03-2007, 06:06 AM
|  | #1 cunt-kicker-in | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northampton, UK:
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