Gays should be hanged, says Iranian minister - Times Online

Gays should be hanged, says Iranian ministerDominic Kennedy
Homosexuals deserve to be executed or tortured and possibly both, an Iranian leader told British MPs during a private meeting at a peace conference, The Times has learnt.

Mohsen Yahyavi is the highest-ranked politician to admit that Iran believes in the death penalty for homosexuality after a spate of reports that gay youths were being hanged.

President Ahmadinejad, questioned by students in New York two months ago about the executions, dodged the issue by suggesting that there were no gays in his country.

Britain regularly challenges Iran about its gay hangings, stonings and executions of adulterers and perceived moral criminals, Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) papers show.

The latest row involves a woman hanged this June in the town of Gorgan after becoming pregnant by her brother. He was absolved after expressing his remorse. Britain said that this demonstrated the unequal treatment of men and women in law and breached Iran’s pledge to restrict the death penalty to the most serious crimes.

A series of reported executions of gays, including two underage boys whose public hanging was posted on the internet, has alarmed human rights campaigners.

The Pet Shop Boys dedicated Fundamental, their Grammy-nominated album, to Mahmoud Asqari and Ayad Marhouni, who were hanged in Justice Square in Mashhad in 2005. Graphic photographs of the execution of the youths, who were under 18 when arrested, were released by the Iranian Students News Agency.

Gay rights groups in Britain, such as Outrage!, accuse Iran of cloaking executions for homosexuality with bogus charges for more serious crimes.

Under the Freedom of Information Act, the FCO released papers to The Times about the death penalty being used in Iran for homosexuality, adultery and sex outside marriage.

Minutes taken by an official describe a meeting between British and Iranian MPs at the Inter-Parliamentary Union, a peace body, in May. When the Britons raised the hangings of Asqari and Marhouni, the leader of the Iranian delegation, Mr Yahyavi, a member of his parliament’s energy committee, was unflinching. He “explained that according to Islam gays and lesbianism were not permitted”, the record states. “He said that if homosexual activity is in private there is no problem, but those in overt activity should be executed [he initially said tortured but changed it to executed]. He argued that homosexuality is against human nature and that humans are here to reproduce. Homosexuals do not reproduce.”

Nicole Pichet, a researcher who also took notes of the gathering, told The Times that the discussion began with British MPs discussing the underage gay hangings. Mr Yahyavi responded by saying homosexuality was to blame for a lot of diseases such as Aids.

Ann Clwyd, the Labour MP and head of Britain’s delegation, said yesterday: “It is of great concern that these attitudes persist and we made it clear what we felt.”

Iran, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, the United Arab Emirates, Yemen and Nigeria apply the death penalty for homosexuality, according to the International Lesbian and Gay Association.

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This guy has reached into my heart and ripped out my moral code and displayed it for the world to see

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It is not just gays, its anyone in Iran who has sex outside marriage with a suitable partner their family approves of...

I'm not aware of any religion that believes it's okay to sin as long as no-one sees you doing it.

I would dearly love to see a transcript of this. At the risk of sounding a bit racist, there's nothing funnier than a flustered Arab trying to bullshit their way out of a situation.

Flustered Indian.

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Meh, either or. It usually goes "No I do not no there is not no I am I have not no there is no. No.". It reads like Beckett when it's written down.

I love the "anti-gay" position that humans are here to reproduce, and that sex for any other reason is blasphemous. I always wonder how many children those people must have. Unless of course they're celibate?

I wish a nation would come out with an official statement that literally just said:

"Yeah, but cmon, bumsex... EWWWW, gross, right guys?"

The victim is killed and the guilty absolved, hell on earth, truly.
Im not supposed to condone this shit but I wish someone would bomb fuckers that think like that, give 'em a real reason to disagree with the west.

do you reckon peter tatchell will try and arrest this president as well? i would pay very good money to see that..

Celibate people deserve to be killed or tortured and possibly both.

I imagine the the greatest spirit in the world at this point is some Bolivian villager woman who has birthed 26 children and counting.

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It's kinda handy that, if you believe people are meant to breed and nothing much else (except for when you want them to do other stuff, in which case God/Allah/whoever is a lot more important), you can justify being a dick to gays and women all in one go.

Poor gay iranians, I wish I had connections with the gay mafia that should go there and save them. Thank God this secular government.


They were underage... that's a criminal state

Yeah, see, if you think like that, as in "they're free to set their own laws" and shit, then there's no real reason why being gay shouldn't be illegal, anymore than having underage sex shouldn't.

So.

Basically, we shouldn't think like that anymore.

what r u talking about? I think you misunderstood my post.

It's obviously fucking criminal to kill people just because of their sexual preferences and I'm not defending that fucking nazi shit in any way. But I think it was even worse what they did to those two boys because they were only kids ffs

indian? arab? fuck knows

thank you so much kesh for that gigantic image so it becomes near-impossible to read it.

w/e its old news.

In response to a question about Iran's treatment of women and homosexuals, he asserted that women are
respected in Iran, and stated "In Iran, we don't have homosexuals, like in your country. We don't have
that in our country. In Iran, we do not have this phenomenon. I don't know who's told you that we have it."

He's probably Aryan! I mean. really Aryan ...

Same thing, it's the crazy Asian denial thing: "I am not know no i no I do not no no it is not have no not have not no I do no no I do not no"