Interested in going vegetarian?

Earthlings

That'll help.
I've been meat free for roughly ten years now, I knew a lot of this information, but I've never seen ANYTHING so graphic. So, I'll warn you now...it is unlike anything you've ever seen and it will without a doubt change you.

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Yeah I saw this about a year after I had stopped being vegetarian. I damn near ended up a veggie again.

Warning to the faint-hearted among us: this is heavy shit. If you're squeamish or easily upset, you'd probably be better not watching it, tbh. Not b/c it isn't worthwhile, but b/c you'll probably end up switching it off anyway.

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Deux hommes font une promenade amicale. L'un des deux porte un parapluie à son bras.
Il se met à pleuvoir. L'homme n'ouvre pas son parapluie et l'autre lui demande pourquoi.
- Parce que ça ne servirait à rien, lui répond son ami. Il est plein de trous.
- Alors, pourquoi l'as-tu pris?
- Parce que je ne pensais pas qu'il pleuvrait.

I wont watch the video simply because it's gonna make me want to take out a 12 gauge and fuck some human shit up.

I can't watch these things because they're too upsetting. I'm vegan and I try to do my bit for animal rights, anyway, I'm not their target audience.

I think they should be made, though. People complain that they're being guilt-tripped...it's just the truth as is usually hidden/ignored- you know, meet your meat and all that.

wont watch it cos im already a vegetarian and ive just eaten but iw as having a discussion with a mate who is fascinated by the fact i dont eat meat, and we basically ended up discussing whether it was more immoral to only eat meat that you yourself had killed, or to refuse to kill anything, but still eat meat...

There's an elephant trainer in that vid that is asking for it. Elephants have long memories and they do remember who was nice to them and who wasn't and will settle old scores.

Bless those precious elephants.

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I got to 28 minutes and had to turn it off.

Rather than really upset yourself by viewing a video, why not read a truly wonderful book that rather skews the image of animals as being, well, simply animals and void of attachment and emotion?

Buy Pleasurable Kingdom. Really, a very lovely book.

To be frank, if you eat meat, it's not a bad idea to have a sense of appreciation as to where it comes from. Visit a slaughter house. Slaughter an animal yourself. I think part of the issue we all contend with is a total lack of attachment in terms of where our food comes from. Faced with killing an animal vs. all the choices or alternatives out there, I'm betting most would not eat meat if forced to do it themselves.

Oh my.
The puppies and kitties alone kill me.

I need to go veg.

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It is a harsh reality.
But its reality.

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I know. I turned it off like. Twenty minutes ago and I'm still crying.

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I tell myself I'll be a vegetarian all the time but I never pull through. I eat meat and chicken and fish. I know it's contributing to the harsh slaughter of animals and all, but I really like my meat.

HOWEVER, one of my HUGE pet peeves is people who are against hunting and all for animal rights and yet they eat meat. In my English class we had a discussion on the slaughtering of turkeys, and the horrible conditions and all the girls were all "Oh that's SO horrible this is SO bad we need to STOP them" and yet they eat meat without hesitating. To me, it just seems hypocritical to say you are a hardcore animal activist and NOT be a vegetarian/vegan.

*shrugs*

I know it's horrible, but I can't stop eating my meat

p.s.
thanks beverly



i didn't watch the video posted because i know it will be upsetting. i know what goes on and i know it's a reality.

i might try being a pescatarian (sp?), someone who doesn't eat meat but eats fish. because, i mean, maybe i can lay off the steak, but god damn i need my conch fritters!

i saw a film that PETA put out a while ago, about 20 minutes of what goes on in slaughterhouses, but it was never enough to turn me off of eating animals.

i watched Earthlings this morning and it was horrendous. it made me feel sad to be part of the human race. also made me want to make a hobby out of torturing men who work at slaughter houses. the most compelling point this movie made, to me, was of the relationship between the powerful and the weak. it's funny because i'm in a place where i've been reevaluating my relationships with other humans in this same fashion; i.e. 'do i pick on people just because i know i can? and what kicks am i really getting out of it?'

i am a firm believer that evolution did not stop with humans. i think it is EXTREMELY far-fetched to think that humans were "put here by God to rule and conquer the Earth." so, therefore, we're just another breed of animal. it is atrocious that we build factories to house special animals, fill them full of drugs, torture them for their ENTIRE life-span(s), then kill them so we can have tasty burgers. ESPECIALLY when veggie burgers aren't half bad.

tonight, i went out for a chicken burrito. i brought it home and forced myself to eat it in front of the computer, while watching Earthlings for a second time. the whole idea of "i'm sure it's gruesome so i don't want to see it," doesn't sit right with me. had i grown up knowing that THIS is really where my Happy Meal comes from, i'd have spent much less time making fun of "fucking weird-ass vegans." the experience was disgusting, the chicken tasted like guilt and bone.

i will not eat meat again until it is post-apocolyptic times, and i'm hunting it myself because i have to. haha, i think i'm the world's first vegan who hates vegetables.

but really, it's beyond what you eat. humans in general need to reevaluate our collective sense of entitlement, as well as all of our unnoticed power-plays that we enact with everything we come into contact with.

and yes, an amazing quote that speaks volumes about us, along the same lines of my last paragraph.. "as long as there are slaughter houses, there will be battlefields." i agree with Emerson on that one.

Venus, thanks for posting this movie, i'd not have seen it otherwise. and what i've learned from my thoughts on this film, well... i think my life will be changed in many many ways.

When I saw the bit about the "pets", I sat there clutching my dog, BAWLING.. "I'll never give you up, I promise I promise! I love you so much!"
and I've only known these dogs for like a month and a half? (just moved in with them)

Sometimes when I'm laying with them on the couch I look down at them & remember the video and burst into tears. My precious little babes, I don't know how anyone could live with themselves after leaving an animal to die, let alone killing one.

& to SS, I am so so so so so glad that I made such a positive influence on your life. Going veg/vegan is the most rewarding thing you could ever do. Good luck, and feel free to PM me if you have any questions/concerns/need a little veggie inspiration

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I'm glad I'm a vegetarian. I didn't make it through the whole video either though...
Besides not eating meat what other solutions did they suggest?

-Going vegan.
-Being aware & spreading the word.
-Don't support puppy mills.

OH...
and
have your pets spayed or neutered

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