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Old 11-17-2007, 02:15 PM
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Maybe you just have an abysmal comprehension? Lets go with that one. xx
Communication is about making yourself understood, and is a two-way process. If you speak incredibly articulately in English to someone who doesn't speak English, who's the idiot? You know your audience. Your argument depends on everyone here having abysmal comprehension, which I can assure you is not the case.

If we're stupid, it's in attempting to have any kind of civilised discussion with you at all, given your persistent tendency to make your point as unclear as possible. If you have no intention of implying something, and someone reads it, why play along until they're proved you wrong for implying it before revealing that you didn't mean that? Why not clarify either in the initial post or in subsequent ones what you actually mean?

Because you're a shit communicator, that's why not.
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Hmm, here's an argument he might appreciate: does he become more of a douchebag if we made him work for his ego-fix, or less?

Haha. If it were really about that I won long ago. I created this thread and you people have wasted far too many words giving me attention. Ignore the fool!!
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I'm clearly not getting any intellectual stimulation in this thread, thats for sure. Dowt worry clowns, dispite the fact I feel like easily the smartest person in his thread, dont worry, I dont consider it any special achievement.
yes, yes clearly you are *massages your ego* I much prefer it this way, i dont have to write nearly so much
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Communication is about making yourself understood, and is a two-way process. If you speak incredibly articulately in English to someone who doesn't speak English, who's the idiot? You know your audience. Your argument depends on everyone here having abysmal comprehension, which I can assure you is not the case.
Pragmatics! I like this subject. Searle?

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If we're stupid, it's in attempting to have any kind of civilised discussion with you at all, given your persistent tendency to make your point as unclear as possible. If you have no intention of implying something, and someone reads it, why play along until they're proved you wrong for implying it before revealing that you didn't mean that? Why not clarify either in the initial post or in subsequent ones what you actually mean?

Because you're a shit communicator, that's why not.
Yeah, either that or youre just on a ridiculous tour to make plausable your basic lack of comprension.

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Haha. If it were really about that I won long ago. I created this thread and you people have wasted far too many words giving me attention. Ignore the fool!!

Nuh-uh, sorry, this cuts no ice. I know you've been involved in on-line discussions before, so I know you know why it's complete guff. If you start a thread with nothing but contempt for anyone who participates, regardless of whether you win, lose or wuss out when it becomes obvious you're not just going to wear everyone down, you've lost at something far more important.
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Old 11-17-2007, 02:24 PM
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I lose! The Vilain is slain? Is that where we're at? Cool. It's been fun.
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Love the lack of specificity here.
huh? was pointing out your lack specificity. which seems to be the problem. you want to win, but i'm not sure exactly what you want to win, what you want to be right about
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Pragmatics! I like this subject. Searle?
I feel a lot like you just proved my point. I'm not even slightly interested in hearing your opinion on this.

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Yeah, either that or youre just on a ridiculous tour to make plausable your basic lack of comprension.

At this point, who cares? its all mind games!!
At this point, clearly you do. You're arguing that everyone's stupid. I'm arguing that you're either stupid or a complete jerk. My argument wins because it is more flexible.

You can insist I lack basic comprehension skills all you want. I have a 130+ IQ, and while I'm in no way saying that makes me infallable, I'd suggest that I do indeed have a BASIC comprehension of English and debate.

If you can refute my argument that you're a jerk, please do, but I've got some awesome-ass cyclic logic to bus' out if you even attempt it.
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huh? was pointing out your lack specificity. which seems to be the problem. you want to win, but i'm not sure exactly what you want to win, what you want to be right about
Im not really sure of anything anymore. The world is such a confusing place and we're all alone in a godless cosmology.
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I feel a lot like you just proved my point. I'm not even slightly interested in hearing your opinion on this.



At this point, clearly you do. You're arguing that everyone's stupid. I'm arguing that you're either stupid or a complete jerk. My argument wins because it is more flexible.

You can insist I lack basic comprehension skills all you want. I have a 130+ IQ, and while I'm in no way saying that makes me infallable, I'd suggest that I do indeed have a BASIC comprehension of English and debate.

If you can refute my argument that you're a jerk, please do, but I've got some awesome-ass cyclic logic to bus' out if you even attempt it.

Appealling to your IQ now! Great. This is almost as pathetic as never was' constant claims to cred because of his phd and 'all my professors adore me'.
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Appealling to your IQ now! Great. This is almost as pathetic as never was' constant claims to cred because of his phd and 'all my professors adore me'.


Actually no, if you read the post, I didn't appeal to my IQ in anything but a fairly superficial sense; your insistence that your inability to communicate is a result of me (and presumably everyone else who agrees with me) suffering a "basic lack of comprension". Unless "comprension" isn't a misspelling of "comprehension", I'm pretty sure that IQ is widely considered a fairly indication of comprehension. Maybe I'm entirely wrong, but no, I'm not entirely wrong, you are.

My actual argument was that you're either unavoidable inarticulate or deliberately so, enjoying setting up intellectual "traps" so you can start two-page tangents and make us all look like oh such fools, such fools. If that's true, you are a jerk, wasting your intelligence not only in your job but also in your recreation, and not even winning any friends as a result.
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Actually no, if you read the post, I didn't appeal to my IQ in anything but a fairly superficial sense; your insistence that your inability to communicate is a result of me (and presumably everyone else who agrees with me) suffering a "basic lack of comprension". Unless "comprension" isn't a misspelling of "comprehension", I'm pretty sure that IQ is widely considered a fairly indication of comprehension. Maybe I'm entirely wrong, but no, I'm not entirely wrong, you are.

My actual argument was that you're either unavoidable inarticulate or deliberately so, enjoying setting up intellectual "traps" so you can start two-page tangents and make us all look like oh such fools, such fools. If that's true, you are a jerk, wasting your intelligence not only in your job but also in your recreation, and not even winning any friends as a result.
Dude, you obviously dont know what I do for a living. (not your fault this one, I havent told you). My job is to sit in front of a computer for 12 hours an monitor government data. The data never comes. My intelligent is moot in this job. But yes I should be doing more constructive surfing. But so should you buddy. Youre trying to explain the pitfalls of a personality to a stoic, attention seeking narcissistt. Anyone on kittyradio is wasting their mind.
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Dude, you obviously dont know what I do for a living. (not your fault this one, I havent told you). My job is to sit in front of a computer for 12 hours an monitor government data. The data never comes. My intelligent is moot in this job. But yes I should be doing more constructive surfing. But so should you buddy. Youre trying to explain the pitfalls of a personality to a stoic, attention seeking narcissistt.
Yeah, I've worked in local government doing quite probably a similar job. This explains why you're here. It doesn't explain why you're bitching about how stupid everyone is and not making the best of it/finding somewhere more stimulating, rather than retaining a degree of civility and not actively alienating yourself.

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Appealling to your IQ now! Great. This is almost as pathetic as never was' constant claims to cred because of his phd and 'all my professors adore me'.
misqouting me here, i dont have one, im doing one next year, it's all set up. my professors do love me tho
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Yeah, I've worked in local government doing quite probably a similar job. This explains why you're here. It doesn't explain why you're bitching about how stupid everyone is and not making the best of it/finding somewhere more stimulating, rather than retaining a degree of civility and not actively alienating yourself.



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O.K. tomorrow class we will talk about something different. Lets talk about John Searle and pragmatics. I think I heard you say once youre some kind of linguist? Correct?
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O.K. tomorrow class we will talk about something different. Lets talk about John Searle and pragmatics. I think I heard you say once youre some kind of linguist? Correct?

Not to my knowledge, no. I may have expressed a passing interest in the subject, but that's about it.