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04-13-2006, 01:46 AM
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| | | Feminism may be the downfall of family Discuss as you will.... | 
04-13-2006, 01:49 AM
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| | | hopefully the downfall of Family Guy. | 
04-13-2006, 02:01 AM
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| | | I hope it is. I hate my family. I'm converting to feminism. | 
04-13-2006, 02:31 AM
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| | | Feminism is nothing more than one of the many prongs of attack used by the international communist movement to destroy this nation from within. We defeated the Soviet Union, but we have not won the Cold War.
The bolsheviks used the same tactics in Russia.
The nazis used the same tactics in Germany.
Now the nazis and bolsheviks are trying the same thing here. So far it is working. | 
04-13-2006, 02:32 AM
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| | | Gloria Steinem is a communist.
Don't even get me started on that commie bitch Kathleen Hannah. | 
04-13-2006, 03:18 AM
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| | | I think there are far worse things in this country that need to be addressed other than feminism. I agree with a lot of feminist ideals, but there are some I do not. It's all a part of functioning society, just like everything else. | 
04-13-2006, 03:49 AM
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| | | Ah... but will anti-feminism (of which most young girls seem to identify with more these days) lead to family again?
Everything goes in cycles. | 
04-13-2006, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by paladin Discuss as you will.... | What's your opinion? Will it or won't it?
What will result from this downfall? A dystopia? A different kind of childcare? Humans dying out?
If you're referring to falling birth rates because women are working moreso][ and how that's 'feminism's fault' what about capitalism, consumerism, and on the flip side, wages for housework campaigns and how these need to be addressed?
When you say 'family', what do you mean? Is any family good as long as it lives under the same roof and looks normal? Do you care about abuse, domestic violence, those fucking family values conservatives who don't value gay children?
This is a difficult question because olf the nature of feminism - ie there is no one type. There are libertarian feminists who don't give a fuck about institutions like the family, because for them it's all about individual choice. I would guess that they're a minority. | 
04-13-2006, 09:10 AM
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The nazis used the same tactics in Germany.
| WTF?? Nazi Germany was extremely anti-feminist. They had the stereotypical fascist view of women - "kinder, kirchen, kutch" was their motto.
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Is feminism destroying families? Depends what sort of 'family' you think is the ideal. I'd hazzard a guess that you're referring to patriachal families where the male is the traditional head of the house, and maybe it is depleting them (i say 'deplete' because feminism gave women options - if a woman wants to be part of a patriachal family then fair enough, if she doesn't then fair enough also), whether that's a good or bad thing is entirely relative. Personally i think options are good - options mean freedom. I also think voting is good. | 
04-13-2006, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sureissassy Ah... but will anti-feminism (of which most young girls seem to identify with more these days) lead to family again? | Most young girls seem to identify with anti-feminism these days? Shit. I would assume that you have to be educated about something to an extent before you oppose it. And many "young girls" haven't a clue about feminism. Girls have heard so much sexist sentiment that they themselves are now against views that benefit them. Sad. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Alina WTF?? Nazi Germany was extremely anti-feminist. They had the stereotypical fascist view of women - "kinder, kirchen, kutch" was their motto. | Uh yeah, Nazis are about as far to the right wing as one can possibly get. Feminists are mostly far, far, far to the left. | 
04-13-2006, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by angelfuck. Uh yeah, Nazis are about as far to the right wing as one can possibly get. Feminists are mostly far, far, far to the left. | Nazi is short for National Socialism. Socialism is generally left wing. Hitler was the crazy part of that and I assume had the whole motto about women to create more families and his perfect Arean race. | 
04-14-2006, 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by angelfuck. Most young girls seem to identify with anti-feminism these days? Shit. I would assume that you have to be educated about something to an extent before you oppose it. And many "young girls" haven't a clue about feminism. | I agree. But young (western) girls today have been fed Girl Power messages since they were born. They know they can have it all because they have never known any different. They can open their own doors. They can get educated, work, marry or not marry, have kids or not have kids. In short, they have always had their independance and perhaps as a result, they see no need for the feminism of old. | 
04-14-2006, 02:02 AM
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| | | What kind of feminism are we talking about here? | 
04-14-2006, 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ZT3dster Feminism is nothing more than one of the many prongs of attack used by the international communist movement to destroy this nation from within. | Which nation? kr is a world thing, so be specific.
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04-14-2006, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BleedingHeart Nazi is short for National Socialism. Socialism is generally left wing. Hitler was the crazy part of that and I assume had the whole motto about women to create more families and his perfect Arean race. | Nazism had elements of a command economy, it's true, but most wartime nations do.
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04-14-2006, 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Alina WTF?? Nazi Germany was extremely anti-feminist. They had the stereotypical fascist view of women - "kinder, kirchen, kutch" was their motto.
| Don't get riled. Right-wing assholes who attack liberal values sometimes like to be seen as anti-nazi too so they don't get accused of being nazis and to try and suggest that liberals have values in common with nazis.
Probably stems from the time when US and USSR were allies fighting Hitler. A very mixed up part of history for a true patriot like Ted. Usualy they just say FDR was a commy.
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04-14-2006, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by kesh Don't get riled. Right-wing assholes who attack liberal values sometimes like to be seen as anti-nazi too so they don't get accused of being nazis and to try and suggest that liberals have values in common with nazis.
Probably stems from the time when US and USSR were allies fighting Hitler. A very mixed up part of history for a true patriot like Ted. Usualy they just say FDR was a commy. | I really shouldn't take the bait  | 
04-14-2006, 05:55 AM
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| | | who needs family anyway | 
04-14-2006, 09:30 AM
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| | | the only way the nuclear family can/will cease to exist is the overthrow of the capitalist class, who rely on the nuclear family to keep women in the home & keep wages down. | 
04-14-2006, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sureissassy I agree. But young (western) girls today have been fed Girl Power messages since they were born. They know they can have it all because they have never known any different. They can open their own doors. They can get educated, work, marry or not marry, have kids or not have kids. In short, they have always had their independance and perhaps as a result, they see no need for the feminism of old. | Girl Power messages have led me to become a feminist. Girls just need to be more educated about what is going on in the world outside of their comfortable society of choices. | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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