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Old 07-02-2007, 06:02 PM
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This is your government....Bush Commutes Libby Sentence

3,000 kids dead and yet another one of Bush's cronies gets off....justice does NOT exist. How much more injustice can this administration get away with?

I know other presidents have done this...but this is just one more shit on the pile. I'm so sick of all of this crap.

Bush spares Libby from prison term - Politics - MSNBC.com
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:48 PM
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No surprise really. The Bush administration is above the law.

They've acted like it since day one.
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Old 07-02-2007, 11:05 PM
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Try Article II Section 2.

You will see that he is completely within the law.

What about your admitted perjurer who pardoned an entire swath of the lowest, slimiest criminals? I don't recall either of you sniveling then.
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Old 07-02-2007, 11:17 PM
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What about your admitted perjurer who pardoned an entire swath of the lowest, slimiest criminals? I don't recall either of you sniveling then.
Perjurer? You mean Reagan?
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Old 07-03-2007, 01:06 AM
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You know who I mean.

I don't recall hearing either of you whining when Bill Clinton our former Whore in Chief pardoned 176 criminals in one day. Murderers, rapists, pedophiles, gang members, etc., etc. You name it.

Sure, he had a Consitutional right to do it. But not one word from any of you about that. That's okay.

Bush commutes jail time for someone who got convicted over an investigation where no crime was even comitted. Hell, the dude who busted Plame out openly admitted he did it. Yet he gets a pass. Why? Because he's a Bush hater, and he committed no crime, because she was not an undercover operative. And of course the unbiased media dropped it. But in all their fairness they kept gunning for someone as close to Bush they could get.

I knew some stalinist was going to open a thread bitching about this.
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Who makes PR decisions at the White House?
lmfao.
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Who makes PR decisions at the White House?
lmfao.
Thats the point-- PR is irrelevent. He can't sink lower in any conceivable way-- approval rating is as low as it goes. He can't re-lose congress. His place in history is pretty well as low as its going too. PR? ha! I'd thought he'd wait until end of term. Looks like he won't bother.
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You know who I mean.

I don't recall hearing either of you whining when Bill Clinton our former Whore in Chief pardoned 176 criminals in one day. Murderers, rapists, pedophiles, gang members, etc., etc. You name it.

Sure, he had a Consitutional right to do it. But not one word from any of you about that. That's okay.

Bush commutes jail time for someone who got convicted over an investigation where no crime was even comitted. Hell, the dude who busted Plame out openly admitted he did it. Yet he gets a pass. Why? Because he's a Bush hater, and he committed no crime, because she was not an undercover operative. And of course the unbiased media dropped it. But in all their fairness they kept gunning for someone as close to Bush they could get.

I knew some stalinist was going to open a thread bitching about this.
Your righties are sooo damn predictable. You need to move beyond the whole "but but but clinton" thing. Evaluate dubya on his own merits, sink or swim. Clinton was flawed, but anything Dubya's done doesn't relate to Clinton.

Seems to me that if the war on terror is so all-important as you say, every resource fighting it is important. From the lowliest private in the army, to the commander in chief. Given that every resource in the war on terror counts, isn't blowing the cover on a CIA Agent a serious crime; its denying a needed resource to the war. The war the president says is tantamount we prosecute to the fullest and win. Seems to me this is a miserable precedent-- essentially, "its ok to break national security.. with connections".

I'll agree-- Clinton's presidency was flawed, but I dont see how this exonerates Bush. He should have set an example along the lines of.. "it hurts me personally, but this is what happens in a war." Or has the urgency of the war on terror lessened?
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she was not an undercover operative.
Statement of Rep. Henry A. Waxman Chairman, Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Hearing on Disclosure of CIA Agent Valerie Plame Wilson's Identity and White House Procedures for Safeguarding Classified Information
March 16,2007


I have met with General Hayden, the head of the CIA, to discuss what I can and cannot say about Ms. Wilson's service. My staff has also worked with the agency to ensure these remarks do not contain classified information.
I have been advised by the CIA that even now, after all that has happened, I cannot disclose the full nature, scope, and character of Ms. Wilson's service to our nation without causing serious damage to our national security interests. But General Hayden and the CIA have cleared these following comments for today's hearing. During her employment at the CIA, Ms. Wilson was under cover. Her employment status with the CIA was classified information prohibited fiom disclosure under Executive Order 12958.
At the time of the publication of Robert Novak's column on July 14,2003, Ms. Wilson's CIA employment status was covert.

http://oversight.house.gov/documents...2636-89494.pdf
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Old 07-03-2007, 01:32 PM
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Whatever, isn't Libby a scapegoat for Cheney anywayz. Why should he have to do jail time for that fat bastard?
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Ok, that was scary.

I'm not surprised about it though, Bush & Co. think that they rule the world.
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I'm not surprised about it though, Bush & Co. think that they rule the world.
They do have a habit of thinking that. With the exception of Britain, they ignored and ridiculed our allies who opposed the invasion of Iraq.
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Statement of Rep. Henry A. Waxman Chairman, Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Hearing on Disclosure of CIA Agent Valerie Plame Wilson's Identity and White House Procedures for Safeguarding Classified Information
March 16,2007

I have met with General Hayden, the head of the CIA, to discuss what I can and cannot say about Ms. Wilson's service. My staff has also worked with the agency to ensure these remarks do not contain classified information.
I have been advised by the CIA that even now, after all that has happened, I cannot disclose the full nature, scope, and character of Ms. Wilson's service to our nation without causing serious damage to our national security interests. But General Hayden and the CIA have cleared these following comments for today's hearing. During her employment at the CIA, Ms. Wilson was under cover. Her employment status with the CIA was classified information prohibited fiom disclosure under Executive Order 12958.
At the time of the publication of Robert Novak's column on July 14,2003, Ms. Wilson's CIA employment status was covert.

http://oversight.house.gov/documents...2636-89494.pdf
Then why wasn't Richard Armitage charged? Libby did not out her. Armitage did. Why is he not being charged?
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No surprise really. The Bush administration is above the law.

They've acted like it since day one.
Yes vegy, this was the first bit of american news we heard from abroad as we headed back to "the homeland." no wonder some europeans think americans are just retarded. f'ing embarassing!

we were not surprised at all. we would have been more surprised had it NOT happened by the end of bush's term. what is disquieting is the amount blatant defiance displayed in doing it before the appeals process. oh well, guess he's saving taxpayers' dollars from being wasted. gotta cut corners somewhere when you've got an expensive useless war going on!

this pardon is proof of the following:

1) bush does not give a shit about national security or real traitors to the american people (no surprise there)
2) bush does not give a shit about justice (ditto)
3) bush looks out for his cronies without any regard to upholding the founding ideals of this nation (ditto)
4) bush displays delusional thinking and is unfit for the job (ditto here too). fantasies of the "divine right of kings"? who knows? who cares? he is a lousy president, and always was. i am so glad i voted for gore in 2000 and kerry in 2004, even though this country is overrun with uneducated idiots.

have you seen that movie "idiocracy"? the movie that was supposed to be a comedy, but the funnies depressing thing is that it's TRUE. junk heaps and crops irrigated with koolaid, here we come!
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Your righties are sooo damn predictable. You need to move beyond the whole "but but but clinton" thing. Evaluate dubya on his own merits, sink or swim. Clinton was flawed, but anything Dubya's done doesn't relate to Clinton.

Seems to me that if the war on terror is so all-important as you say, every resource fighting it is important. From the lowliest private in the army, to the commander in chief. Given that every resource in the war on terror counts, isn't blowing the cover on a CIA Agent a serious crime; its denying a needed resource to the war. The war the president says is tantamount we prosecute to the fullest and win. Seems to me this is a miserable precedent-- essentially, "its ok to break national security.. with connections".

I'll agree-- Clinton's presidency was flawed, but I dont see how this exonerates Bush. He should have set an example along the lines of.. "it hurts me personally, but this is what happens in a war." Or has the urgency of the war on terror lessened?
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scary. they forgot blackface to make the skit more complete and fully fratboylike. oh, how pc of them!
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