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Old 04-03-2007, 05:08 PM
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Scientist claims he was misled



Prof. Carl Wunsch's response to the film The Great Global Warming Swindle.


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In the part of the "Swindle" film where I am describing the fact that the ocean tends to expel carbon dioxide where it is warm, and to absorb it where it is cold, my intent was to explain that warming the ocean could be dangerous---because it is such a gigantic reservoir of carbon. By its placement in the film, it appears that I am saying that since carbon dioxide exists in the ocean in such large quantities, human influence must not be very important --- diametrically opposite to the point I was making---which is that global warming is both real and threatening.
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Channel 4 now says they were making a film in a series of "polemics". There is nothing in the communication we had (much of it on the telephone or with the film crew on the day they were in Boston) that suggested they were making a film that was one-sided, anti-educational, and misleading. I took them at face value---a great error. I knew I had no control over the actual content, but it never occurred to me that I was dealing with people who would deliberately distort my views.
Partial Response to the London Channel 4 Film "The Great Global Warming Swindle"

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Global Warming Denialists in distortion shocker?

Wow, they would never use a graph that was known to be in error and corrected 5 years ago.

They would never point to cooling shown by satillite data and forget to tell people that the data was predicted by AGW theories.

They would never point to ice sheet data and neglect to mention that the extra thickening is understood to be at the expense of footprint, for an overall lesser mass.

They would never distort science in such a way! Unthinkable!
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All these scientists were in that film.
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I haven't yet watched this but I've heard a lot about it. I read a lot of the debate threads on the BBC news website and I noticed how, in the space of an evening, the majority went from banging on about how we need to reduce our carbon output, to believing that this isn't a man-made problem.

Aside from the bias in the do***entary that vegy has already addressed, I just generally find this sort of thing irresponsible. No matter what people like to bang on about on the internet, there are many people who can't really be bothered making changes (me included). If these people are handed a convenient little excuse to keep living the way they are living, they'll eat it up (well, I don't but clearly many do). It doesn't even need to be plausible or scientifically correct. It reduces the whole guilt factor: people will lose their homes, their descendents may struggle to survive, animals will struggle as their habitats change, etc. Yay! It's not my fault!

I usually feel that it's only a good thing that people can have the opportunity to see and understand both sides of an argument. But the anti-GW theorists have always had far too much airtime anyway. It's only recently that people have really started to accept that this is a problem, people's attitudes were changing for the better, and yet do***entaries like this will get made and broadcast and all progress on the matter is effectively lost. It's totally disheartening and, as pabs says, like hitting your head off a brick wall.
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the tyrants are making us blame ourselves, for the death and destruction they inflict.
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