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03-08-2007, 12:16 PM
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| | | CCTV Of Police Hitting Woman I don't even know where to start with my disgust of this one. When i man beats a woman it's always shocking to hear about, but the fact that it was a policemen makes it quite frightening. There supposed to be out on a friday and saturday to control behaviour like this, not adding to the problem. What makes the behaviour of the police even worse is that other policemen obviously stood by while he beat the girl.
At first i started to read this because i was shocked that police would behave in such a way, but as someone who suffers from Epilepsy i can't help but think about that particular factor. I have to say i'm a little bit skeptical, her epilepsy seems to have been used as an excuse for her anti-social behaviour. Her parents could not know for sure that she had a seizure in the club, this is meerly guesswork. The biting and kicking i'm not sure about either. There have been instances with myself where i've behaved slightly hostile to someone trying to help me when i was still confused, i never hurt them but had just had a shower and a male housemate found me obviosly i was naked. I was confused and treating him as if he wanted to look at my body apparently, although these are his words i have no memory of this. Either way any Epileptic knows the consequences from drinking too much when not on adequete medication, and the danger that nightclubs can pose if your epilepsy is photo-sensitive.
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CCTV Of Police Hitting Woman Thursday March 8, 04:33 PM (Sky news)
A young woman repeatedly punched by a policeman is demanding an apology and compensation. CCTV pictures show 20-year-old Toni Comer being hit five times by PC Anthony Mulhall.
The officer, who has been suspended from frontline duties, says he was trying to deaden her arm so she could be restrained with handcuffs.
The mother-of-one said: "I thought police arrested people for doing things like that, not that they did it themselves.
"Afterwards, there were bruises on the back of
my neck, the side of my head and on my arms."
She added: "I would like to see some kind of justice so this never happens to anybody else in the future.
"He should pay some compensation for what he did to me."
She is taking civil action against the officer.
Ms Comer - who suffers from epilepsy - had been thrown out of the Niche nightclub in Sheffield. Police were called when she vandalised a car.
She admits drinking brandy and cokes before arriving at the club, but says her mind went blank after entering and she has no recollection of what followed.
PC Mulhall said he had been kicked and spat at by Ms Comer, who had also tried to bite him.
In a statement he said he tried to subdue her to no avail: "There was no visible effect and in the end I had to use brute force and both hands to bend her arm at the elbow to place her wrist in the cuff."
He said he hit her "as hard as I was physically able" to deaden her arm so she could be restrained.
She was put in cuffs and dragged away with her trousers down as a police dog handler watched.
Ms Comer has pleaded guilty to criminal damage and was given a conditional discharge and ordered to pay £250 compensation.
Ms Comer's parents, Leroy Walcott and Lisa Comer, said their daughter had a fit in the club.
Mr Walcott, told Sky News: "What kind of an example does this set? My daughter is 5ft 6ins and weighs nine stone and I'm sure two police officers could have restrained her. It's just not acceptable."
Ms Comer said her epilepsy started when she was 17 and pregnant with her three-year-old son Tyrees. She doesn't take medication because of possible side effects if she wants more children.
She added: "I'd like to see an apology and for the police to be aware that these type of illnesses are around, because it can be mistaken for being drunk."
The Independent Police Complaints Commission has launched an investigation into the allegations.
IPCC Commissioner Nicholas Long said: "I have seen the CCTV footage and decided it is in the public interest for a wholly independent investigation to be conducted."
South Yorkshire Police Chief Constable Meredydd Hughes told Sky News he'd been horrified when he first saw the CCTV clip. However, he added he had now seen the whole footage and there was more to the case than first met the eye. | 
03-08-2007, 12:25 PM
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| | | Why is a man hitting a woman so shocking? If women want to be treated equally they've got to take the good with the bad. The woman should feel please the policeman is not treating her differently due to her sex. | 
03-08-2007, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cumshotwhore Why is a man hitting a woman so shocking? If women want to be treated equally they've got to take the good with the bad. The woman should feel please the policeman is not treating her differently due to her sex. | ooh good point, and I love your name. Anybody who goes by cumshotwhore is a friend of mine. | 
03-08-2007, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cumshotwhore should feel please the policeman is not treating her differently due to her sex. | Yeah she sounded really pleased, i don't think equality of women was exactly what she was thinking about at the time. Besides he's a policeman on duty he shouldn't be hitting anyone regardless of there behaviour. | 
03-08-2007, 12:36 PM
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| | | Reminds me of Courtney dare I say it. I love her, but c'mon. ITs sexist they wanna put me in jail, even though I am doing drugs, and attacking people. | 
03-08-2007, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by celebrityskinned Reminds me of Courtney dare I say it. I love her, but c'mon. ITs sexist they wanna put me in jail, even though I am doing drugs, and attacking people. | God bless Courtney. Lets all attack people, its exciting! | 
03-08-2007, 12:54 PM
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| | | At least in this article, the woman who was arrested didn't say a single thing about how they shouldn't have hit her because she's female. She said they shouldn't be handling anyone like that, and that they should be more educated about epilepsy. I don't have enough information to judge who's in the wrong here, but I didn't see a thing about gender being brought up by the alleged victim.
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03-08-2007, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Wildwoman At least in this article, the woman who was arrested didn't say a single thing about how they shouldn't have hit her because she's female. She said they shouldn't be handling anyone like that, and that they should be more educated about epilepsy. I don't have enough information to judge who's in the wrong here, but I didn't see a thing about gender being brought up by the alleged victim. | i have to say i wasn't really thinking about it being wrong in terms of gender, so perhaps that comment shouldn't have been there. But it's not like i was writing an academic essay so i can't say it's something i would take much thought over. My point was that even as an epileptic myself i find the fact that her epilepsy is such an issue a bit of an excuse for her anti-social behaviour. If she wasn't on medication she shouldn't have drank that much alcohol, especially without taking someone with her that understands her epilepsy. | 
03-08-2007, 01:48 PM
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| | | Fair enough, but that did seem to be the direction the conversation was taking. I see this happen here all the time, and I just wanted to try to say something before there were five pages about how the feminist movement is directly responsible for making this woman into a hypocritical monster and why don't women ever own up to doing something wrong if they want to be treated equally, and by the way here's a list of 12098123098 other things feminism has ruined for the sheer joy of destruction. I wasn't necessarily assuming it was you who was going to say any of that.
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03-09-2007, 03:39 PM
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| | | hey do we have a link to the CCTV footage? because realistically, what we have here is someone going drunk and getting nutso and violent and being arrested for it... whether this was 'reasonable force' totally depends on the amount of force used. as for the epilepsy thing, i think it's fair to hold her at least on some level accountable for that on the basis she is not taking medication, drinking and going to a fucking nightclub. | 
03-09-2007, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by All_the_stars Mr Walcott, told Sky News: "What kind of an example does this set? My daughter is 5ft 6ins and weighs nine stone and I'm sure two police officers could have restrained her. It's just not acceptable." | I work in a challenging behaviour care home, and have restrained a woman who is 5'3" weighing 8-9 stone and she needed 4 members of staff trained in restraint to hold her, including male staff. Quote: |
Originally Posted by All_the_stars Ms Comer said her epilepsy started when she was 17 and pregnant with her three-year-old son Tyrees. She doesn't take medication because of possible side effects if she wants more children.
She added: "I'd like to see an apology and for the police to be aware that these type of illnesses are around, because it can be mistaken for being drunk." | I read in the paper that her epilepsy was self-diagnosed and that she hadn't actually had any test which proved she was epileptic. | 
03-09-2007, 04:29 PM
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03-09-2007, 07:25 PM
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| | | ouch. | 
03-09-2007, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzytart I work in a challenging behaviour care home, and have restrained a woman who is 5'3" weighing 8-9 stone and she needed 4 members of staff trained in restraint to hold her, including male staff.
I read in the paper that her epilepsy was self-diagnosed and that she hadn't actually had any test which proved she was epileptic. | yes. She also has numerous charges, has been in trouble with the police before and has been arrested before due to drink/drugs and racial abuse.
She's lucky she didn't get a punch in the face. The fact that she didn't shows that the police were holding some sort of restraint. This wasn't a random police attack. | 
03-10-2007, 12:24 AM
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| | | so, wait:
this chick, claiming to have epilepsy, goes out, already drunk, to a nightclub *1, leaves even more drunk than she arrived, vandalises a car and generally picks fights *2, states her mind was 'blank' after reaching the club *3, and a policeman, clearly, on camera, struggles to restrain her, then draws his baton, gives her a few whacks, then handcuffs her and they drag her off.
This is not police brutality. This is a policeman doing his job and unfortunately ending up being caught on camera from a bad angle while he uses his truncheon. She received no injury, other than bruises, and to top it all off, she is filing a civil case against him, not a criminal one. She is looking for money, not justice. *1 known for flashing lights etc. DUH. *2 which she pleaded GUILTY to *3 though somehow she is very clear she is having a fit, of which by the way no doctor has confirmed | 
03-10-2007, 07:06 AM
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| | | I can't believe he lamped her that many times without his standard-issue police knuckleduster.
rookie error. | 
03-10-2007, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by dr.llama so, wait:
this chick, claiming to have epilepsy, goes out, already drunk, to a nightclub *1, leaves even more drunk than she arrived, vandalises a car and generally picks fights *2, states her mind was 'blank' after reaching the club *3, and a policeman, clearly, on camera, struggles to restrain her, then draws his baton, gives her a few whacks, then handcuffs her and they drag her off.
This is not police brutality. This is a policeman doing his job and unfortunately ending up being caught on camera from a bad angle while he uses his truncheon. She received no injury, other than bruises, and to top it all off, she is filing a civil case against him, not a criminal one. She is looking for money, not justice. *1 known for flashing lights etc. DUH. *2 which she pleaded GUILTY to *3 though somehow she is very clear she is having a fit, of which by the way no doctor has confirmed | so cos she was drunk she was asking to get beaten by a cop? i'm surprised they didn't rape her tOo, i mean shE was sbing so irresponsible... someone needed to teach her a lesson?
all of your points are true, but yeah::: THERE IS NO REASON WHY A POLICEMAN SHOULD BE HITTING ANYBODY REPEATEDLY IN THE FACE. MAN OR WOMAN, DRUNK OR SOBER, MONEY HUNGRY OR NOT.
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03-10-2007, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by discolexy so cos she was drunk she was asking to get beaten by a cop? i'm surprised they didn't rape her tOo, i mean shE was sbing so irresponsible... someone needed to teach her a lesson?
all of your points are true, but yeah::: THERE IS NO REASON WHY A POLICEMAN SHOULD BE HITTING ANYBODY REPEATEDLY IN THE FACE. MAN OR WOMAN, DRUNK OR SOBER, MONEY HUNGRY OR NOT. | She wasn't hit in the face. She was hit in the arm to allow the police to handcuff her, as she was twisting violently and trying to kick them in the nuts. | 
03-10-2007, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by discolexy so cos she was drunk she was asking to get beaten by a cop? i'm surprised they didn't rape her tOo, i mean shE was sbing so irresponsible... someone needed to teach her a lesson?
all of your points are true, but yeah::: THERE IS NO REASON WHY A POLICEMAN SHOULD BE HITTING ANYBODY REPEATEDLY IN THE FACE. MAN OR WOMAN, DRUNK OR SOBER, MONEY HUNGRY OR NOT. | No: because she was committing a crime and resisting arrest, she had to be subdued so she could be handcuffed. Check out the link to the BBC website, not a scratch on her face.
And yes, unfortunately, a police officer may have to use a baton to subdue someone so they can be arrested. | 
03-10-2007, 08:40 AM
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| | | Quicker than usual, this has disintegrated into petty letigion, to the point where it will be impossible to discern any of the facts. The CCTV footage is causing as many problems as it's solving; it highlights that neither account is reliable, but doesn't show enough to indicate how. So we know both sides are either lying or just bad at remembering, but we can't actually be sure what parts are true.
The woman's been claiming that she was having an epileptic seizure. It's essentially a self-diagnosis, and no doctor has found any evidence that she is a sufferer. It's a serious problem if someone's prepared to say stuff like that, really. The fact that she's pursuing it through the civil courts also seems kinda suspicious; aside from the fact that money rather than justice can be seen as the reward, there is also the fact that the burden of proof in civil cases is greatly reduced. While it's obviously not conclusive, it would at least suggest that she doesn't have that much faith in her ability to prove anything. | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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