'natural law' is a dumb notion - Page 2

Ophiel Ophiuci · #6 03-03-2007, 01:43 PM

We can but hope though.

Jocko Homo sexy!

books ablaze · #7 03-03-2007, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ophiel Ophiuci

In the latter half of the 20th century, up until the present, we are finally beginning to understand that normalcy is a construct.

No that’s just failing idea spawn by daft French intellectuals like Derrida and Foucault. There are many human ' behavioural norms' and human natures. You can see them by studying independent cultures all over the world that have had nothing to do with each other. Peoples ubiquitously develop traits (because we are all variations of the same genetic template), they are 'universals', 'natural traits' (homosexuality is one, btw), - things like grammar, stock emotions, mathematical logic, many others. There’s an anthropologist whos researched them all but I cant think of his name.

Sonofagun · #8 03-03-2007, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by books ablaze

I've also noticed natural rights being recruited by evolutionary psychologists trying to use the principle to prove that cooperation is in our genes and therefore justify a type of Rawlsian welfare liberalism or even Kantian “liberal internationalism” (This is the heart of Chomsky’s politics and linguistics) . This might be more tenable, as it is a little less bastardizing of the concept of “natural”, but then again, we know so little about the what can be the expected output of a human genome, that is idiotically presumptuous to even to even start talking in this manner. Also, when we do finetune behavioral genetics to an exact science, its more likely to vindicate Machiavelli than Jesus. You just have to look at the jungle law that exists in the animal kingdom and in precivilized places like central Africa to see that.

I tend to do this even though I'm not often fond of evolutionary psychology. I don't know. I want people to have rights. I want to come up with something other than "because I said so" and I don't want to involve god (not a fan). And we are social animals. Cooperation keeps us alive. But uh, of course rights are man made.

fagarielina · #9 03-03-2007, 03:37 PM

but then again, we know so little about the what can be the expected output of a human genome, that is idiotically presumptuous to even to even start talking in this manner.

does that gofor youtoo?
haha

in any event the burden ofproof lies on you to prove humans are inherently selfy kikes
butlike you said before^
realistically speaking of course!

fagarielina · #10 03-03-2007, 03:51 PM

not to mention what THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYve already done to tweak the human genome!
AND SUCH