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Old 03-09-2007, 01:04 PM
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I sure am !!

Its a ridiculous statement.
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Which part's ridiculous? There are some pissed off Muslims in the world, maybe not so many as there are now, but still some. It's not like George W Evilbush went back in time to piss them off to give himself an excuse to blow up the WTC thus giving him the angle to declare war on them.

Explain how that's somehow ridiculous?
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The part about the Muslim world being pissed off for getting fucked over by the west. That argument hasn't been valid since Islamic nations became independent.

Since then the majority of their problems are self induced. They want to blame their troubles on everybody else, except themselves.
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They want to blame their troubles on everybody else, except themselves.
And you're saying that, because you know this, my point about them being pissed off and attacking the West is "ridiculous"?

That's ridiculous. Just because they're wrong to be pissed off, doesn't mean they're going to go "oh, wait a minute, we don't want to look stupid" and stop being pissed off. That's not how being pissed off works.
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And you're saying that, because you know this, my point about them being pissed off and attacking the West is "ridiculous"?

That's ridiculous. Just because they're wrong to be pissed off, doesn't mean they're going to go "oh, wait a minute, we don't want to look stupid" and stop being pissed off. That's not how being pissed off works.
Maybe I misread what you wrote. It sounded like you believed such a lame ass excuse.

Oh well. I stand corrected.
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Nah, I probably mis-said it as much as anything.

I suspect that the reasons for the attack will vary from person to person. But I don't believe that understand 9/11 requires any grand conspiracy. Investigating the existing enemy and their motives makes a lot more sense than just inventing new ones.
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Nah, I probably mis-said it as much as anything.

I suspect that the reasons for the attack will vary from person to person. But I don't believe that understand 9/11 requires any grand conspiracy. Investigating the existing enemy and their motives makes a lot more sense than just inventing new ones.
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It depends on the conspiracy. The arguments for it, and the plausibility of the arguments.

9/11 conspiracy theories fail in every way.
I believe that James Earl Ray did not act alone.

The thing that really blew my mind was the ballistics testing done some time in the late 1990’s. 12 of the eighteen bullets fired from the alleged assassins rifle didn’t match the bullets taken from King. The other six they said were similar, just similar?

This was the rifle they tied so painstakingly to Ray. His personal effects where found with it.

Who did it? Probably the Klan headed it up, at the time they controlled things in the south. The FBI didn’t like King and because of days of rioting after Kings death they just wanted it over, and quickly.
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I believe that James Earl Ray did not act alone.

The thing that really blew my mind was the ballistics testing done some time in the late 1990’s. 12 of the eighteen bullets fired from the alleged assassins rifle didn’t match the bullets taken from King. The other six they said were similar, just similar?

This was the rifle they tied so painstakingly to Ray. His personal effects where found with it.

Who did it? Probably the Klan headed it up, at the time they controlled things in the south. The FBI didn’t like King and because of days of rioting after Kings death they just wanted it over, and quickly.
Now that's an example of a conspiracy theory that has plausibility on its side.

Back then it was very likely the local sheriffs were also Klan members. Same for the juries and the judges!

The King family feels the same way.

http://www.thekingcenter.org/news/trial.html#Statement
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You should be paying me to take it off your hands >_<

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