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"Generation Me"

Today's college kids 'generation me,' study finds

BY DAVID CRARY, Associated Press
Article Last Updated: 02/26/2007 09:47:42 PM PST

NEW YORK - Today's college students are more self-centered than their predecessors, according to a comprehensive new study by five psychologists who worry that the trend could be harmful to personal relationships and American society.

"We need to stop endlessly repeating `You're special' and having children repeat that back," said the study's lead author, Professor Jean Twenge of San Diego State University. "Kids are self-centered enough already."

Twenge and her colleagues, in findings to be presented at a workshop today in San Diego on the generation gap, examined the responses of 16,475 college students nationwide who completed an evaluation called the Narcissistic Personality Inventory between 1982 and 2006.

The standardized inventory, known as the NPI, asks for responses to statements including "If I ruled the world, it would be a better place," "I think I am a special person" and "I can live my life any way I want to."

The researchers describe their study as the largest ever of its type and say students' NPI scores have risen steadily since the current test was introduced in 1982. By 2006, they said, two-thirds of the students had above-average scores, 30 percent more than in 1982.

Narcissism can have benefits, said study co-author W. Keith Campbell of the University of Georgia, suggesting that it could be useful in meeting new people or auditioning on "American Idol."

"Unfortunately, narcissism can also have very negative consequences for society, including the breakdown of close relationships with others," he said.

The study asserts that narcissists "are more likely to have romantic relationships that are short-lived, be at risk for infidelity, lack emotional warmth and to exhibit game-playing, dishonesty and over-controlling and violent behaviors."

Twenge, the author of "Generation Me: Why Today's Young Americans Are More Confident, Assertive, Entitled - and More Miserable Than Ever Before," said narcissists tend to lack empathy, react aggressively to criticism and favor self-promotion over helping others.

The researchers traced the phenomenon to what they call the "self-esteem movement" that emerged in the 1980s, asserting that the effort to build self-confidence went too far.

As an example, Twenge cited a song commonly sung to the tune of "Frere Jacques" in preschool: "I am special, I am special. Look at me."

"Current technology fuels the increase in narcissism," Twenge said. "By its very name, My-Space encourages attention-seeking, as does YouTube."

At California State University, Northridge, where the average student is 26, freshman Tiffany Lane said today's college students face stiff competition and have to push themselves ahead of others to achieve success.

"We're all working a lot, but the expectations are so high today ... where we all need a four-year college degree to get a great job," said Lane, 19, of Simi Valley.

And she disagrees with the study's authors that narcissism can have negative consequences for society.

"If we don't have the push in society, I don't think we'd advance as a nation," Lane said. "Competition makes us the advanced nation we are."

Some analysts have commended today's young people for increased commitment to volunteer work. But Twenge viewed even this phenomenon skeptically, noting that many high schools require community service and many youths feel pressure to list such endeavors on college applications.

Campbell said the narcissism upsurge seemed so pronounced that he was unsure whether there were obvious remedies.

"Permissiveness seems to be a component," he said. "A potential antidote would be more authoritative parenting. Less indulgence might be called for."

The new report follows a study released last month by researchers at the University of California, Los Angeles, who found that nearly three-quarters of the freshmen they surveyed thought it was important to be "very well-off financially." That compared with 62.5 percent who said the same in 1980 and 42 percent in 1966.

Yet students, while acknowledging some legitimacy to such findings, don't necessarily accept negative generalizations about their generation.

Hanady Kader, a University of Washington senior, said she worked unpaid last summer helping resettle refugees and considers many of her peers to be civic-minded. But she is dismayed by the competitiveness of some students who seem prematurely focused on career status.

"We're encouraged a lot to be individuals and go out there and do what you want, and nobody should stand in your way," Kader said. "I can see goals and ambitions getting in the way of other things like relationships."

Kari Dalane, a University of Vermont sophomore, said most of her contemporaries are politically active and not overly self-centered.

"People are worried about themselves, but in the sense of where are they going to find a place in the world," she said. "People want to look their best, have a good time, but it doesn't mean they're not concerned about the rest of the world."

Besides, some of the responses on the narcissism test might not be worrisome, Dalane believes. "It would be more depressing if people answered, `No, I'm not special,"' she said.

CSUN freshman Brad Myer of Saugus credited his parents with not spoiling him but said he notices a sense of entitlement among some of his friends.

"They expect to get a good job out of college and not work up the ladder," said Myer. "I just want to get a good job, and I don't care about being really rich."

Freshman Omar Estrada believes that if people think only about themselves, society will pay the price. "There could be more important things going on in society than just what's going on in your life," said Estrada, 18, of North Hills.

"Once you're informed, you have to do something. You have to change it and not sit back and watch."

At Los Angeles Mission College in Sylmar, students said the crush of school, work and family could simply make them appear self-absorbed.

"In a sense, we're all here for ourselves, for our own future," said 19-year-old film student Chris Cardenas. "But I have to say that, for the most part, I'm surprised that a lot of people here are involved in school and community issues."

Staff Writers Susan Abram and Naush Boghossian contributed to this report.

http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_5312072

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Probably true. This is the mentality that gives us those dickheads playing music off their mobile phones to all and sundry on your public transport. NO I DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO YOUR FUCKING KANYE WEST YOU DICKSHIT.

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The solution is "more authoritative parenting"? What vague horseshit.

How about effective mass transit? Well-funded public education so we have actual attention spans? Banning the drugging of underage kids as a solution to shit schooling? Most of the people they surveyed probably read/write at the level I was at in 4th grade. Most of Kittyradio sure as Hell does. Why is everyone and their mother turning in plagiarized essays in college? Because they're brats, yes...but also because they're kind of functionally illiterate.

Of course people have more financial anxiety and are more selfish. They're less likely to be able to take care of themselves financially than their predecessors, and they're probably getting an even worse education than the already dismal one Generations X and Y got.

If the quality of life in America hadn't continued its plummet, maybe this report wouldn't seem so whiny. Obviously, yeah, convenience is ruining our lives. But it goes hand in hand with complete abandonment to our own devices by a society deliberately underfunded in all the ways it so desperately needs. And the jobs that most people are pursuing with their college degrees either shouldn't exist in the first place or are meritocratically void -- i.e. they ought to just be in trade school.
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I don't know what it's like in America, but according to some economist guy, people born now are still better off than their grandparents. We have higher expectations of our standard of living which many of us struggle to meet, but we are seriously far from being less able to take care of ourselves financially.

Incapable in other ways, perhaps. Ever heard of "the boomerang generation"?
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I know I’m a lot older than who they’re talking about, and I’m sure it makes a difference that it was the school and not my parents who pulled this crap on me, but I’m pretty sure my self-esteem was lowered by ham-handed-poorly-thought-out attempts to raise it. Teachers would always be like ‘You can do anything if you try!’ and I knew that wasn’t true, because there were things I tried and couldn’t do (for the purposes of my primary education, being able to do something meant getting an A). Which then led me to the conclusion that I was a total and complete loser who would probably die in the gutter because I couldn’t do everything. I used to lie awake at night when I was in grade school wondering how I would support myself as an adult. By the time I was in high school I was suicidal – not just because of that, but it really would have helped if it hadn’t been drummed into me that being smart meant you were good at everything across the board. I actually had a teacher tell me it was obvious I could do well in math if I ‘tried’ (they always circularly insisted I wasn’t trying because I wasn’t doing well), because I was so good at reading and writing. So I pretty much decided that being so good at reading and writing – better, often, than classmates who got straight As in everything were – was just a cruel tease, and of no functional use.
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It's true but I certainly don't think it's too negative. Glass half-full, "generation me" has ready made positive affirmations! At least most will work to live up to their own standards of being "special".
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Isn't it going to kind of suck when they realize everyone doesn't think they're special?
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it doesn;t matter though, if i think i'm special and you think you're special then someone always thinks you're special
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it doesn;t matter though, if i think i'm special and you think you're special then someone always thinks you're special
Ah, I guess I don't really understand the special thing because they didn't use that one on me. Being perfect was 'normal.'
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Maybe too much "me" doesnt make anyone learn to give. Maybe thats why more people are opting out of having children? They'll give up too much, especially "me" time...and oh "my" post pregnancy bellys gonna look just AWEFUL! Dont know.....just a thought.
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Maybe too much "me" doesnt make anyone learn to give. Maybe thats why more people are opting out of having children? They'll give up too much, especially "me" time...and oh "my" post pregnancy bellys gonna look just AWEFUL! Dont know.....just a thought.
well, is that such a bad thing? we have enough people.
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Yeah, and it's hard enough to do even if you really want it. I don't see the point in insisting everyone have children.
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well, is that such a bad thing? we have enough people.
enough poor uneducated people you mean. Before the Eastern Europeans moved in, we didnt have a population problem here in Ire.. If America thinks it has problems, they should see how many people can be squeezed into Britian, which I must admit is waaaaay over populated.
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If someone doesn't want a child because it would cut into their 'me time,' then they shouldn't be having one anyway.

But it's not even working that way really. Narcissistic wealthy people have children - later in life than previously - and treat them as accessories.
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Kids will never go totally out of style. Like someone said, some people want them merely as accessories. Even if no one is having them in their youth, there will always be bored housewives who want a baby.
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I know I’m a lot older than who they’re talking about, and I’m sure it makes a difference that it was the school and not my parents who pulled this crap on me, but I’m pretty sure my self-esteem was lowered by ham-handed-poorly-thought-out attempts to raise it. Teachers would always be like ‘You can do anything if you try!’ and I knew that wasn’t true, because there were things I tried and couldn’t do (for the purposes of my primary education, being able to do something meant getting an A). Which then led me to the conclusion that I was a total and complete loser who would probably die in the gutter because I couldn’t do everything. I used to lie awake at night when I was in grade school wondering how I would support myself as an adult. By the time I was in high school I was suicidal – not just because of that, but it really would have helped if it hadn’t been drummed into me that being smart meant you were good at everything across the board. I actually had a teacher tell me it was obvious I could do well in math if I ‘tried’ (they always circularly insisted I wasn’t trying because I wasn’t doing well), because I was so good at reading and writing. So I pretty much decided that being so good at reading and writing – better, often, than classmates who got straight As in everything were – was just a cruel tease, and of no functional use.
wow, this is the first thing I've seen you post where it sounds like you are actually a human being with feelings.

Weridly enough, I can relate. I'm going through the suicidal stage, plus constant anxiety about how I'm going to support myself.




I think we are the worst generation the world has seen. I guess the 80's was the last good generation, the people in the 80's strived to succeed but it seemed to be a positive thing, and people before those generations fought for social change and stood up for something.

Other generations had Janis Joplin, Hendrix, The Beatles and Madonna as their icons, we have Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera as our icons. That surely must be an indicative of something.
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BUT, not all of us accept those girls as our personal icons, there is hope for us yet.

but there are going to be the poster childs of this generation to the people 20 years into the future.
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