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Old 02-27-2007, 11:03 PM
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Transgendered city manager (Largo, FL) fired because of gender status

http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2007/2/27/226921.html?title=Stanton+placed+on+leave;+final+v ote+to+fire+him+coming

Largo commissioners voted Tuesday evening to place city manager Steve Stanton on administrative leave.

A vote to terminate his employment contract must take place within 45 days. Stanton announced Feb. 21 he is going to go through the process of becoming a woman.

Stanton, who has been city manager 14 years, has said by April he will wear women's clothes and live as Susan Stanton.

His announcement garnered reactions from city leaders, citizens and church groups demanding he be fired.

In a resolution filed Monday, city commissioner Mary Gray Black said "the time is right for our city of Largo to move forward without the administrative leadership of Mr. Stanton.''

Commissioners held a special meeting Tuesday evening to discuss whether to place Stanton on administrative leave.

Hundreds of people packed city hall, with dozens speaking to commissioners during the public comment portion of the meeting.

Commissioners Mary Black, Gigi Artzen, Harriet Crozier, Andy Guyette and Gay Gentry voted in favor of Black's resolution.

Mayor Pat Gerard and commissioner Rodney Woods voted against.

"What I know about this man is, next to his concern for his family, his concern for his city has always been paramount," Gerard said.

Stanton also spoke on his own behalf, saying he enjoyed every day of his 14 years as city manager.

The resolution needed five votes to pass.

Commissioners voted to make assistant city manager Norton Craig interim city manager.


Question: what does his gender reassignment have to do with his job???
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:15 PM
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I hate to say it but I'm not surprised. (that doesn't make it right of course). It's still legal here in the state of georgia (except in the city of atlanta) to fire a person because they're gay.
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:30 PM
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I hate to say it but I'm not surprised. (that doesn't make it right of course). It's still legal here in the state of georgia (except in the city of atlanta) to fire a person because they're gay.
I did not now this. I'm not shocked at the outrage but I am sort of shocked he'll be losing his job because of it.
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It's still legal here in the state of georgia (except in the city of atlanta) to fire a person because they're gay.
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Question: what does his gender reassignment have to do with his job???
Nothing. Just his image and reputation will be in question for his employer or whatever? LAME
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Florida has always seemed kind of fucked to me...but I think that if he is forced to pursue it further than the state, the state will certainly lose. There have been a number of advances in transgender rights over the last decade or so.

But it is so fucked to think that someone, somewhere thinks that it is okay to treat someone like this. No one in Minnesota would get away with it.
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Maybe going for operations and recovery will have him out of work for too long? It is a huge transformation after all? I dont know, just trying to see if there's any practical validity, maybe if there was one, he wouldnt feel so bad about it.
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Maybe going for operations and recovery will have him out of work for too long? It is a huge transformation after all? I dont know, just trying to see if there's any practical validity, maybe if there was one, he wouldnt feel so bad about it.
It is a huge transformation, but the surgery does not have to take ages. Not to mention, a lot of people with state jobs have more vacation time and benefits than people in other industries do.

People transition without losing their jobs and it is perfectly possible. I think the folks putting him on leave are being real fucks here.
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it sounds as though he is transexual not transgendered...where does it say he is having a operation to remove his penis??? it states he wants to wear womans clothe's and be called susan???

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it sounds as though he is transexual not transgendered...where does it say he is having a operation to remove his penis??? it states he wants to wear womans clothe's and be called susan???
the title says trans-gendered yet, it just says he will wear women's clothing?
You sound right there!
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This would be a good time to use my new favourite word "cisgender". But I can't be bothered. Much as this stuff sucks, high profile cases like this raise awareness and contribute to the wider process of equalitisation (word?). I mean, Rodney King did a lot to highlight the propensity of racism to people who probably thought racial equality had been achieved.
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Oh, also I'm becoming increasingly aware how many people don't know the difference between transexual and transvestite. I'd have thought it was pretty obvious from the words. I mean, even the transexual guy at our uni doesn't know the difference!
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the title says trans-gendered yet, it just says he will wear women's clothing?
You sound right there!
I think either term could apply. Sex is the biological aspect, gender is the social aspect. If he believes he is a woman in a man's body and wants to live as a woman, he is transsexual; it doesn't matter if he is still physically and/or socially male. If he is merely defying traditional gender roles by dressing or acting like a woman but doesn't believe his sexual assignment is wrong then he may be considered transgendered, but not transsexual. At least that's how I understand it.
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Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I've always been a bit confused by the term "transgender". It seems deliberately designed to make two very different situations fall under a blanket category, for no reason I fully understand. Transexuals and transvestites share radically different experiences, so why are they lumped together?

EDIT: I guess transgender might have been officially declared as the new word for "transvestite" while I was in the john. It would make a kind of sense, since gender (as oppose to sex) if defined culturally, and while not necessarily biological does refer to more than just clothing.
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transgender encompasses from any gender norm variation to crossdressing to transexuality

the word isnt equalization its assimilation!
altho granted i was calling transgender "rights"(rights cant be dictated butthey must be declared let freedom ring with a buckshot biatsh!) when i felt discriminated by the pigs- which is exactly what it was by definition
but assimilation still aint acceptance!

it is interesting tho cos i found out my county has laws against transgender discrimination regarding employment that suprised me cos its really one of few


A vote to terminate his employment contract must take place within 45 days. Stanton announced Feb. 21 he is going to go through the process of becoming a woman.


thats where it says
process of becoming awoman"
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I still remember you telling us about that cop trying to pull you when you were out on a "sexy walk".

That's still my enduring memory of you.
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yeah!
HE SHOWED UP AT THE HEARING WITH THE PROSECUTING OFFICER
i think that helped convince the guy to drop charges?
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Maybe he bribed someone. Love is a powerful emotion <3
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