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02-27-2007, 05:53 PM
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| | | IQ by nation http://www.rlynn.co.uk/pages/article...ligence/t4.asp
Taiwan 104
Austria 102
Germany 102
Italy 102
Netherlands 102
Luxembourg 101
Sweden 101
Switzerland 101
Belgium 100
China (PRC) 100
New Zealand 100
Singapore 100
United Kingdom 100
Hungary 99
Poland 99
Spain 99
Australia 98
Denmark 98
France 98
Iceland 98
Mongolia 98
Norway 98
United States 97 | 
02-27-2007, 05:54 PM
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| | | I'm not surprised the US is last...we have some dumb-ass f*cks here. | 
02-27-2007, 05:57 PM
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| | | We're not last.... We're pretty high up. That tiny list is a list of the highest. Click the link. . . ..
Poor Equitorial Guinea. | 
02-27-2007, 05:57 PM
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| | | The U.S. is not last. Click the link. Creez is similar to Zoanthropy, they both like to omit information. And who even knows how reliable that site is. | 
02-27-2007, 06:14 PM
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| | | Japan is the highest- 110. Ever notice all the kids who were top in ur class were Asians? Damn smartypants. Maybe eating sushi makes you smart. | 
02-27-2007, 06:15 PM
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| | What's more interesting in this study is this: Quote: |
National IQs assessed by the Progressive Matrices were calculated for 60 nations and examined in relation to per capita incomes in the late 1990s and to post World War Two rates of economic growth. It was found that national IQs are correlated at 0.757 with real GDP (Gross Domestic Product) per capita 1998 and 0.706 with per capita GNP (Gross National Product) 1998; and at 0.605 with the growth of per capita GDP 1950-90 and 0.643 with growth of per capita GNP 1976-98. The results are interpreted in terms of a causal model in which population IQs are the major determinant of the wealth and poverty of nations in the contemporary world.
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02-27-2007, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Little Fury What's more interesting in this study is this: | Makes sense. | 
02-27-2007, 06:51 PM
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| | | that's a retarded list.
I've met a lot of swedish and dutch people and they all ha way less general knowledge and hardly any of them spoke three languages....which most Belgians do.
I'm no patriot at all. I don't like Belgians either, but damnit we're smart.
besides. what does a list like that say any way. sure there's stupid people in the US, but it's also a fact that more than half of the living Noble Prize winners teach at American universities so I'm guessing there's some smart people in the US as well...I actually met quite a few.
there's stupid people in every country....I've met a lot of idiots..... | 
02-27-2007, 06:55 PM
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| | | hahaha what a great shit stirrer of a list. I love it because statistically, it means nothing. | 
02-27-2007, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Little Fury What's more interesting in this study is this: | I think it's probably the other way around. I haven't read the article and I'm not going to just now, but it's pretty obvious on a small scale here in the US that the rich kids have the benefit of a better education, educated parents who do more things right when the kids are in the womb (extensive prenatal care & advice, nutrition), etc. | 
02-27-2007, 07:00 PM
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| | | What kind of idiot goes around compiling lists like this anyway? I can't believe that there are actually people in the world who throw money at this kind of pointless research. | 
02-27-2007, 07:02 PM
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| | | academics
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02-27-2007, 07:03 PM
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| | | I'd seen a stat that IQ is inversely disproportionate to income (although not exactly), but the one posted may either confirm or deny it, given that I suck at maths.
Re: Sarah KidA's comment, that's fairly meaningless. Bear in mind the above is an AVERAGE score for the nation. You might find a country where there is a broad spread of IQ scores (e.g. 80-120) which has the same average as a country where everyone is basically the same (say 95-105)..
General knowledge in particular has precisely nothing to do with IQ. IQ is meant to measure one's capacity for learning and understanding, not facts that one has accumulated throughout one's life. That's why it doesn't change much over time. | 
02-27-2007, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by crassy academics
more specifically...
assholes with tenure | My hatred of acedemia is the primary reason why I'm a poorly educated, low paid slob.
At least, that's what I tell myself every night when I brush my teeth. | 
02-27-2007, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Squarepusher What kind of idiot goes around compiling lists like this anyway? I can't believe that there are actually people in the world who throw money at this kind of pointless research. |
This is actually comparatively useful information. There are people who research whether it's better to stand still or walk around in the rain. | 
02-27-2007, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ophiel Ophiuci This is actually comparatively useful information. There are people who research whether it's better to stand still or walk around in the rain. | Exactly. The people who conduct this kind of research are nowhere near as smart as they think. Ask the average man in the street and he'll tell you it's way better to go inside and be dry than do either of those things. | 
02-27-2007, 07:12 PM
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| | | I don't think they're smart. Why would I? There's a story by Borges about a map made 1:1, referring by parody to our obsessive measuring and simulation of our own reality. There doesn't seem to be a great deal our culture is good at beyond measuring its own successes and failures. When we're gone, our society will effectively still exist in information form. | 
02-27-2007, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Ophiel Ophiuci I'd seen a stat that IQ is inversely disproportionate to income (although not exactly) | think really hard and see if you can remember the source, cos I'd like to see it. | 
02-27-2007, 07:23 PM
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| | | I'm shit at these things, I think it was an anecdotal thing. I don't think it was exact or anything, but it certainly implied that a high IQ was at least unnecessary for financial success in broad terms.
The stuff about it not increasing as a result of accumulating more facts is generally true though. | 
02-27-2007, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sara_KidA that's a retarded list.
I've met a lot of swedish and dutch people and they all ha way less general knowledge and hardly any of them spoke three languages....which most Belgians do.
I'm no patriot at all. I don't like Belgians either, but damnit we're smart.
besides. what does a list like that say any way. sure there's stupid people in the US, but it's also a fact that more than half of the living Noble Prize winners teach at American universities so I'm guessing there's some smart people in the US as well...I actually met quite a few.
there's stupid people in every country....I've met a lot of idiots..... | I agree.
IQ tests, in my opinion, are just ways to make people feel less than what they are. Many academics have argued that it is a form of scienitific racism, since many people who do poor on the tests tend to be from nations that have colored people; and the IQ tests fail to take into account that some of the people that are taking the test have no use for the knowledge that they are being asked to know. For example, why would a black female from Congo need to know an IQ-like test question:
A mother is 21 years older than her child. In exactly 6 years from now, the mother will be exactly 5 times as old as the child.
Where's the father?
Why would you expect a someone to know this or to know how to do this, when in their life they have no use for it. It's like throwing a white urbanite that was born and raised in NYC in the middle of a rain forest and asking them to find their way out. | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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