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02-25-2007, 01:37 PM
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| | | Cow 'emissions' more damaging to planet than CO2 from cars
Sorry if there's already been a thread for this, I forgot to look until after I hit submit!  http://news.independent.co.uk/enviro...cle2062484.ece Quote:
By Geoffrey Lean, Environment Editor
Published: 10 December 2006
Meet the world's top destroyer of the environment. It is not the car, or the plane,or even George Bush: it is the cow.
A United Nations report has identified the world's rapidly growing herds of cattle as the greatest threat to the climate, forests and wildlife. And they are blamed for a host of other environmental crimes, from acid rain to the introduction of alien species, from producing deserts to creating dead zones in the oceans, from poisoning rivers and drinking water to destroying coral reefs.
The 400-page report by the Food and Agricultural Organisation, entitled Livestock's Long Shadow, also surveys the damage done by sheep, chickens, pigs and goats. But in almost every case, the world's 1.5 billion cattle are most to blame. Livestock are responsible for 18 per cent of the greenhouse gases that cause global warming, more than cars, planes and all other forms of transport put together.
Burning fuel to produce fertiliser to grow feed, to produce meat and to transport it - and clearing vegetation for grazing - produces 9 per cent of all emissions of carbon dioxide, the most common greenhouse gas. And their wind and manure emit more than one third of emissions of another, methane, which warms the world 20 times faster than carbon dioxide.
Livestock also produces more than 100 other polluting gases, including more than two-thirds of the world's emissions of ammonia, one of the main causes of acid rain.
Ranching, the report adds, is "the major driver of deforestation" worldwide, and overgrazing is turning a fifth of all pastures and ranges into desert.Cows also soak up vast amounts of water: it takes a staggering 990 litres of water to produce one litre of milk.
Wastes from feedlots and fertilisers used to grow their feed overnourish water, causing weeds to choke all other life. And the pesticides, antibiotics and hormones used to treat them get into drinking water and endanger human health.
The pollution washes down to the sea, killing coral reefs and creating "dead zones" devoid of life. One is up to 21,000sqkm, in the Gulf of Mexico, where much of the waste from US beef production is carried down the Mississippi.
The report concludes that, unless drastic changes are made, the massive damage done by livestock will more than double by 2050, as demand for meat increases.
| the un report: http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.as...r1=environment  |
02-25-2007, 01:39 PM
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| | | nobody believes them when i tell them this.
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02-25-2007, 01:39 PM
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| | | Another reason to go vegan. |
02-25-2007, 01:55 PM
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| | | I think the reason people struggled to give this argument credibility is because it was being touted by those who thought we shouldn't attempt to do anything about car emission either.
My solution: get going on stem cell research. Fuck trying to clone exact working limbs. What we need is to be able to grow meat from stem cells. That way we can make it have no brain and no ass, and then no-one will have any excuse for not eating it. |
02-25-2007, 02:07 PM
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| | I enjoy how the title was "cow emissions more damaging"
when really, if you read the article, Quote: |
Burning fuel to produce fertiliser to grow feed, to produce meat and to transport it - and clearing vegetation for grazing - produces 9 per cent of all emissions of carbon dioxide, the most common greenhouse gas.
| it's not simply the cows, but also the methods WE use to farm them. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Ophiel My solution: get going on stem cell research. Fuck trying to clone exact working limbs. What we need is to be able to grow meat from stem cells. That way we can make it have no brain and no ass, and then no-one will have any excuse for not eating it. | You MUST have read Oryx and Crake by Margaret Atwood. Chickie-Nobs are this exact creation. Headless, formless, boneless globs of chicken meat. And they feed the masses. |
02-25-2007, 07:36 PM
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| | | this sort of makes me proud to be a veggie. |
02-25-2007, 08:16 PM
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| | they could just shove giant hoses up their asses and recycle the emissions  |
02-25-2007, 09:22 PM
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| | | termites is worser |
02-25-2007, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kesh termites is worser | then lets at least feed the cows termites? |
02-25-2007, 09:28 PM
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| | | i WANT high altitude methane firestorms
there's no ozone down here i am lobster coloured |
02-25-2007, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by kesh there's no ozone down here i am lobster coloured | pics please |
02-25-2007, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Ophiel Ophiuci I think the reason people struggled to give this argument credibility is because it was being touted by those who thought we shouldn't attempt to do anything about car emission either.
My solution: get going on stem cell research. Fuck trying to clone exact working limbs. What we need is to be able to grow meat from stem cells. That way we can make it have no brain and no ass, and then no-one will have any excuse for not eating it. | Arthur C. Clarke wrote a story once suggesting that this would make cannibalism ethical-and from what I've heard people taste good-"Like pork
but sweeter." |
02-25-2007, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Lostinplace from what I've heard people taste good-"Like pork
but sweeter." | ew! what kind of people are you hanging out with? |
02-25-2007, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by herekitty pics please | no.
anyway i lied about termites, only a fifth of livestock. rice agriculture produces much methane |
02-25-2007, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Little Fury You MUST have read Oryx and Crake by Margaret Atwood. Chickie-Nobs are this exact creation. Headless, formless, boneless globs of chicken meat. And they feed the masses. | Nah, Peter F Hamilton talks about "vat meat", which I assume is a similar thing. William Burroughs refers to UT (undifferentiated tissue) in the 50 and 60s. The idea's been around for a while. Protein really should be grown like a crop, not pansied over because we haven't bred the nerve engings out of it yet. |
02-25-2007, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by kesh no.
anyway i lied about termites, only a fifth of livestock. rice agriculture produces much methane | I didn't think you were at all serious about termites, I thought it was a random thing you said to be funny. (the bad grammar helped give this impression) Now I'm intrigued, I'm going to have to look into this. |
02-25-2007, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruth Price they could just shove giant hoses up their asses and recycle the emissions | yes, someone should really invent a way to capture the fumes. i get finicky everytime i see a cow squat and watch all that wasted fuel float on up to the sky.
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02-25-2007, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by alpha zygote yes, someone should really invent a way to capture the fumes. i get finicky everytime i see a cow squat and watch all that wasted fuel float on up to the sky. | thank god for careful readers. I try to be but I'm working on something else right now too, so I though Ruth said shove horses up their asses and I figured it was just another weird fetish of hers. But this actually makes sense! |
02-25-2007, 11:29 PM
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| | | oh that just made me think of that one book - she swallowed the horse to swallow the cow to swallow the dog to swallow the... except horse in cow. and other end. and, well, i never figured out why a horse would eat a cow anyways.
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02-26-2007, 12:44 AM
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