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Old 10-01-2008, 11:42 AM
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Creative or destructive?

I see three paths to take.

1. creative: a person does constructive, improving work and play. Is an imaginative and open lover. Has hobbies and interests that reveal the inner moral sense. Recognizes beauty in nature and people.

2. Destructive: critical of others and of self. Stagnant; resists change and growth. Will not read books or seek adventure or new interests. Would rather change others and judge others than improve oneself. Obsessive, compulsive, quick to act on negative subjects. Fault-finder.

3. Balanced: has creative interests and spends time each week doing things alone. Works well with others and is constructively critical to be helpful only. Willing to throw away old ideas and beliefs, yet not the baby with the bath water. Is curious but not prying. Passionate without jealousy. Does not envy yet is interested in what others have achieved. Has a good mind and also respectfully realizes that others are not perfect.


What direction do you find yourself pursuing? Is it important to know where you are at?

I feel we determine our paths with awareness, choice, caring for ourselves and caring for other's better interests too. We don't go alone. Are we destroyers of our own dreams, or co-creators?
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Old 10-01-2008, 03:37 PM
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Old 10-01-2008, 04:14 PM
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Apathetic. Mostly.
Your dreams are rusting away, heh?

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Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown;
Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
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Your dreams are rusting away, heh?

They are small dreams, but they have (almost) done so, yes.
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They are small dreams, but they have (almost) done so, yes.
Small dreams are very helpful. Synchronicity is a very important aspect to life. Preparing to succeed is all part of motivation and achievement. The coincidental events that come our way out of the blue gain meaning when we have dreamed.

All of the achievers of dreams were influenced by events and coincidences that they turned into opportunities. Those who sit idle waiting for something to happen for them often find nothing happens for them. They place no meaning on random events because they were too apathetic to notice the meaning that accompanies life; therefore they were not prepared mentally to take action.


"Carpe diem"
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BTW, I too, have small dreams.
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A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is;
Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown;
Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
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Old 10-03-2008, 12:40 PM
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"Creativity is more important than knowledge"
~~Albert Einstein


"Apathy is destruction without intent"
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A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is;
Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown;
Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
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"Creativity is more important than knowledge"
~~Albert Einstein


"Apathy is destruction without intent"
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When it comes to Sophia_ posting in the Mental Health forum, I'm pretty apathetic. However, I could not stand by to see him misquote his favorite guy, Albert, yet again. As Ronald Reagan use to love to say, "There You Go Again."

I believe the quote of Einstein's was: "IMAGINATION is more important than knowledge." Not CREATIVITY. Were you subconsciously trying to be creative or imagnative when you changed Albert's quote ? Didn't we go through this once before, last year, when the same quote was misquoted---in referring to the Einstein poster in the Coffee Emporium, that you brought up ??

Of all people ! You, Sophy_ should be able to remember this quote by now. Please do not imagine that I am assasinating your character by bringing up your error in mis-quoting this important (to you) quote of Einstein's. You've used this one before,---often !!

P.S. You are my absolute favorite in the "Red Rep Basement". P.P.S. Please don't try to say that Imagination and Creativity are synonyms, in any kind of an egoic effort to explain your simple oldtimer's mistake concerning your favorite guy.

Another free piece of hopefully helpful advice, --- it might work out better for you if you could explain what you meant when you said something about Ophiel not believing Einstein, or believing in him, etc. What was that all about? I don't remember you answering Ophiel on that one, no? I was waiting for your answer, but there was nothing.......... One gets mighty weary waiting for an answer from you. Your CC shit is weak in this department.
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When it comes to Sophia_ posting in the Mental Health forum, I'm pretty apathetic. However, I could not stand by to see him misquote his favorite guy, Albert, yet again. As Ronald Reagan use to love to say, "There You Go Again."

I believe the quote of Einstein's was: "IMAGINATION is more important than knowledge." Not CREATIVITY. Were you subconsciously trying to be creative or imagnative when you changed Albert's quote ? Didn't we go through this once before, last year, when the same quote was misquoted---in referring to the Einstein poster in the Coffee Emporium, that you brought up ??

Of all people ! You, Sophy_ should be able to remember this quote by now. Please do not imagine that I am assasinating your character by bringing up your error in mis-quoting this important (to you) quote of Einstein's. You've used this one before,---often !!

P.S. You are my absolute favorite in the "Red Rep Basement". P.P.S. Please don't try to say that Imagination and Creativity are synonyms, in any kind of an egoic effort to explain your simple oldtimer's mistake concerning your favorite guy.

Another free piece of hopefully helpful advice, --- it might work out better for you if you could explain what you meant when you said something about Ophiel not believing Einstein, or believing in him, etc. What was that all about? I don't remember you answering Ophiel on that one, no? I was waiting for your answer, but there was nothing.......... One gets mighty weary waiting for an answer from you. Your CC shit is weak in this department.
Thanks for correcting my misquote; it is "imagination" rather than "creativity". I am not offended or threatened by your willingness to correct me. I would hope your intent was good. Only you would know your intent; I can only observe patterns of behavior; if I tried to read your mind of its intent I would be always spinning my brain like a whirling dervisher.

"Imagination is more important than knowledge"

I often make unintended mistakes. In some regards these are "freudian slips" , and in other occasions they are due to memory loss or misperception. I am guilty of every one of the observations you have made; I feel the degree of guilt is up for discussion.

In the process of creative thinking I put less importance on memory and facts; I let my mind flow. Interestingly the intuitive mind places less value on facts and perfection. The rational side of the mind is much more precise and critical. Mistakes are judged more harshly. Intent is seldom a consideration. With the intuitive/creative mind values and judgments are far less important.

I own my shortcomings, misperceptions, imperfections, and intents. Actually I appreciate when a critical eye can point these human attributes out to me; for if I were so protective of my ego and my self image I would be very cautious and protective of expressing these socially uncomfortable human artifacts.

There are interesting perceptions about words and meanings. These meanings seem to evolve and change with factors of time and situation. Meaning can be very situational. Human behaviors can be very situational also. I think this is why I appreciate you and others pointing out my mistakes, whether it be spelling, grammar, facts, or perceptions. It helps me to see myself from different perspectives.

I thank you for helping me to grow spiritually. I grew up in a sports environment. Self-criticism was a paramount to success in that sort of discipline. College courses offered a different kind of critical thinking development. I had the luxury of two systems of thought and cognitive development: rational and intuitive. Sports is highly intuitive. I was majoring in computer engineering and playing college sports. Rancheria and Governmento were in Viet Nam learning similar discipline I would suppose. Very few people would experience two disciplines simultaneously. We were fortunate. How do we share our discipline with those less fortunate; this is the challenge.

In sports, a participant can be placed frequently in front of up to 100,000 critical fans. Nothing can be hidden from view it seems. A minor mistake can be exposed via film so the participant will certainly face public and peer scrutiny. In war a person could make a grave mistake and no one would ever know. Intent rests with the participant. Facts can be buried with intent, but someday these things will come out in various forms. PROJECTION is usually the manner in which the unconscious mind reveals repressed material.

"Owning one's projections can be a step into conscious Heaven or a fall back into the memories of unconscious Hell; on the train of life, perfection is the final destination, although, one must go through Hell to get there"
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With your assistance I walk through the valley of death, but fear no evil....
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A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is;
Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown;
Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter

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Fostering creativity

Main article: creativity techniques

Daniel Pink, in his 2005 book A Whole New Mind, repeating arguments posed throughout the 20th century, argues that we are entering a new age where creativity is becoming increasingly important. In this conceptual age, we will need to foster and encourage right-directed thinking (representing creativity and emotion) over left-directed thinking (representing logical, analytical thought).

Nickerson[51] provides a summary of the various creativity techniques that have been proposed. These include approaches that have been developed by both academia and industry:

Establishing purpose and intention
Building basic skills
Encouraging acquisitions of domain-specific knowledge
Stimulating and rewarding curiosity and exploration
Building motivation, especially internal motivation
Encouraging confidence and a willingness to take risks
Focusing on mastery and self-competition
Promoting supportable beliefs about creativity
Providing opportunities for choice and discovery
Developing self-management (metacognitive skills)
Teaching techniques and strategies for facilitating creative performance
Providing balance

Some see the conventional system of schooling as "stifling" of creativity and attempt (particularly in the pre-school/kindergarten and early school years) to provide a creativity-friendly, rich, imagination-fostering environment for young children. Compare Waldorf School.
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Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown;
Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
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Reward or Punish?

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Social attitudes to creativity

Although the benefits of creativity to society as a whole have been noted,[52] social attitudes about this topic remain divided. The wealth of literature regarding the development of creativity[53] and the profusion of creativity techniques indicate wide acceptance, at least among academics, that creativity is desirable.

There is, however, a dark side to creativity, in that it represents a "quest for a radical autonomy apart from the constraints of social responsibility".[54] In other words, by encouraging creativity we are encouraging a departure from society's existing norms and values. Expectation of conformity runs contrary to the spirit of creativity.Nevertheless, employers are increasingly valuing creative skills. A report by the Business Council of Australia, for example, has called for a higher level of creativity in graduates.[55] The ability to "think outside the box" is highly sought after. However, the above-mentioned paradox may well imply that firms pay lip service to thinking outside the box while maintaining traditional, hierarchical organization structures in which individual creativity is not rewarded.
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Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown;
Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
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