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07-06-2008, 07:07 PM
|  | is maintaining the high | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: l.A.
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| | | Opiate Addiction i'm going to a pain clinic tomarrow for my first treatment. that's a whole other thing.
my problem is, my new dr. prescribed me vicodin, which i went through twice as fast as i should have. i'm starting to go through withdrawal, taking hot mineral baths, freaking out a little, because the doctor may see it. i really don't want to get kicked out of their program, but shouldn't i be honest about my condition?
i signed a legal document saying i've never been an addict, and i won't get pills from another doctor.i haven't been to another dr. and i really wanted to take only 3 a day, but i ran out day before yesterday.
should i ask my new dr. for a refill, too soon? i could say i tried to make my medicine last, but the pain was too intence? that's what happened.
i'm too tired to even go outside right now. i plan on resting, then the corner store to get some food. | 
07-06-2008, 07:32 PM
|  | Running Blind | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Frozen Garden
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| | I'd just tell the doctor the truth and take it from there... The docs are there to help you out  i hope u r ok... | 
07-06-2008, 07:45 PM
|  | is maintaining the high | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: l.A.
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| | | thanks, Ash, that's what they are for, but i don't want to look like a desparate addict, which is how i feel.
at least i can say i didn't get more pills and break my aggreement.
i may either be given nothing but herbal remedies, but i don't want to be a pill freak again. | 
07-06-2008, 07:47 PM
|  | Running Blind | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Frozen Garden
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| | | Well if they resort to treating u like an addict then find a better doctor... no-one deserves being treated or spoken to in such a manner.
And you never broke your agreement... Have you looked into any kind of herbal remedies? | 
07-06-2008, 07:58 PM
|  | heroin | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: new zealand
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| | | I've been getting tramadol prescribed to me on a regular basis for about 3 years, and only had a problem with getting them once.
if you fill your repeat prescription earlier than you should, then they will contact your doctor.
it's better to be honest with them if you're not actually just after the pills for recreational use, as ash said, they are there to help, and they understand how addictive these substances can be.
every time i go into hospital in need of morphine, there's always one asshole who treats me like an addict. it sucks.
what are you on vicodin for?
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07-06-2008, 08:05 PM
|  | is maintaining the high | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: l.A.
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| | | yes, i've done that. i'm taking the mineral baths. i had lots of vitamins and suppliments last time, but i think there is some pain i can't advoid. such is life.
my doctor cut me off painkillers, cos he's afraid of getting in trouble. i can understand that! he did give me one last script for codiene, which was compassionate, but firmly said that's it, and referred me to this pain clinic. they don't want addicts looking for pills, either.
my back hurts so much, i'm going to get back in the tub with some weed. | 
07-06-2008, 08:08 PM
|  | is maintaining the high | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: l.A.
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| | | i've got fibromylasia, arthritis, headaches, migraines. i had tramadol, it wasn't stong enough to help me, i forget the strenth, a friend gave me one.
thanks for the feedback. all advice is welcome! | 
07-06-2008, 08:08 PM
|  | Running Blind | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Frozen Garden
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| | Me personally.. im on Citalopram ( which i know is not an opiate) tablets to treat stress, anxiety and depression which is the result of a build up of a number of things. I just lost total control when i found out my brother had cancer and i got ill myself... so i lost myself. I know i'll get well though im sure... like you 
I've been stopped once from getting a repeat prescription as i had 2 prescriptions in a month without knowing... b
and im a little addicted to painkillers cos i get real bad migraines... but i still take painkillers when i dont need them sometimes.... :s
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07-06-2008, 08:46 PM
|  | is maintaining the high | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: l.A.
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| | | one more thing, it's the pharmacy that has the right to refuse any prescription. idk what they'll say, either.
it's just that i want a script tomarrow, even if i can't get it filled, because i'm going so far away for this.
i'm at the point, where if i curl up in a ball, it feels better.
the one time i quit codiene, i was taking a lot more than i have been, lately. that took me over a month to detox from. maybe i'll feel better in the a.m. | 
07-06-2008, 08:57 PM
|  | is maintaining the high | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: l.A.
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| | | thanks for the advice and warning. my last pharmacy didn't tell my doctor, but the pharmacist said "i know your problem, my sister was an addict. she's dead now, the pills didn't do her any good."
i don't get a good high anymore off opiates, i really need to give it a rest or cut down.
i should have saved some valium, now i have to wait 9 days.
this clinic, they don't give refills over the phone, every script must be gotten there, after an office visit. maybe so they can charge my insurance company. | 
07-06-2008, 10:09 PM
|  | BIG AND HORNY | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Into the Pandemonium
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by *cherry bomb* i've got fibromylasia, arthritis, headaches, migraines. i had tramadol, it wasn't stong enough to help me, i forget the strenth, a friend gave me one.
thanks for the feedback. all advice is welcome! | Oh god I know this panic. I need painkillers right now but have nothing ughh. I'm at work too and have to lift lots of heavy things.
The resting is the thing that makes it all the worse. Though its' hard to exercise with swollen arthritis. Get yourself some glucosamine.
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07-06-2008, 10:30 PM
|  | give me the sickest one. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: fox in the snow
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| | | they wont take you blazing through your meds lightly. thing is, if your meds arent working, you should call before you take more than the appropriate amount and say ITS NOT WORKING
taking it all until its gone and then calling makes you look like, not just a pain patient but an addict. you are displaying addictive behaviors. big issue. and i think your pain clinic is going to have a problem with this.
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07-07-2008, 12:34 AM
|  | is maintaining the high | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: l.A.
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| | | oh, it's too late! i called last thursday, left a message asking for an office visit/more pills. the recording said that someone would call me back, & no one did.
i'm just glad that i still get to have treatment tommarow.
i really am taking this seriously, i usually buy as much as i can of painkillers, and i didn't do that, either. so, for me, that is a personal victory that i can't tell my new dr.
i think i'll stick to my story that i want the prescription now, to be filled in 2 weeks. it's true, and i have a feeling i can't get an office visit so quick, as i had to wait 3 weeks for my first appt.
i actually feel better now. but i'm sweating.
Ronette, i'm so tired, i feel sleepy, i'll lift weights and go to sleep very soon. thanks for your help, i will get the glucosine, i haven't been wanting to leave my apt., though i will force myself, i have to buy food, anyway. i assume i can get this at the health food store?
before i leave, early tommarow, i'll check this thread.
anyone have detox tips?
last time i drank lots of fresh parsely tea. my friend was giving me all sorts of expensive remedies for muscle cramps. | 
07-07-2008, 01:40 AM
|  | BIG AND HORNY | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Into the Pandemonium
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| | | Yeah get it from a health food shop. It will help you I hope, as it did for me. I have hardly any of the weird fibromyalgia type aching that is just all over. It's so hard for someone to understand that without having suffered it. Months if aching muscles for no reason. Can you just ween yourself off a bit?
Never allowed myself to get addicted to any painkillers but I do panic when I have none. That "what if it gets really really bad" feeling. It's a good idea to lift those weights though. Something about it helps. Is the pain in your back mostly? I had it randomly all over but the back stuff helped the rest when I exercised it.
Do you find the pain is worse in the morning too? Make sure you keep warm for that arthritis (guess it's summer there though?)
If you can get liquid glucosamine it absorbs way faster into the body, the pills can take several weeks to kick in.
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07-07-2008, 01:40 AM
|  | heroin | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: new zealand
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| | | opiates really are the worst to be addicted to. i'm sure your doctor/pharmacist knows this, and if they're not a bunch of assholes, then they should cut you some slack.
diazepam probably wouldn't be a good idea for you right now, considering how addictive that is!
i'm waiting for an appt at a pain clinic atm, i have chronic abdo pain that no-one can explain.
unfortunatley for me, i'm not prescribed tramadol anymore because it interacts with my anti-depressants. sucky.
hope you're feeling better x
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07-07-2008, 02:39 AM
|  | whirling dervisher | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spin me
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| | Take good care of yourself, hon.
This is something I would ask you to look into. I think these women are onto something helpful. Quote: Become deeply addicted!
Just become quiet, still, and solitary, and the world will offer itself to you to be unmasked; it has no choice. It will roll in ecstasy at your feet. Franz Kafka
Silence becomes addictive.
Within silence our soul speaks and we are able to hear an ever present and profound wisdom. In silence we find serenity. In silence we hear answers to our questions. In silence the mind relaxes. When the mind is relaxed we find renewed energy. With a relaxed mind creativity and inventiveness explode in ways not possible when these are forced by a controlling mind.
Purposefully create one of the most powerfully positive addictions you will ever develop. Become profoundly addicted to frequent periods of total silence. - from Romancing Your Soul
"Whenever there is a little time between duties, retire to the cave of silence within...Seek time to be alone; and in the cave of inner silence, you shall find the wellspring of wisdom." - Paramabansa Yogananda
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07-07-2008, 10:24 AM
|  | is maintaining the high | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: l.A.
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| | i feel mostly back pain. i had nightmares/weird dreams all night. i'm nauseous/sweating. i just want to hole up in my apt. be in bed, sleeping.
my cat is great support.  and at least i don't have the trots(shits).
the clinic is picking me up in an hour, they say i can't take a cab home, and will drive me back. i had better not ask for pain meds. this is a good time to quit, as i'm not working. | 
07-07-2008, 10:27 AM
|  | Running Blind | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Frozen Garden
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| | you can do it 
thinkin of ya  | 
07-07-2008, 03:46 PM
|  | is maintaining the high | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: l.A.
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| | | thanks to all for your support!
i got the injections in my lower back, and am feeling SO much better.
this morning, i was in the waiting room, my head between my kness, almost crying in pain. now i really feel good, some lower back pain, but not that bad, i'll take asprin & i'm going to the health food store for herbal remedies.
i asked my dr. for more pain meds, i said "i screwed up, i'm fighting a migraine and used up my prescription, i'll be more careful next time". so, he said "that's not good. you promise you'll be careful, and i'll give you more". but he didn't. i'll get another sript in two weeks.
but i stopped sweating. now is the time for detox, i will ask the herbalist at the store. | |