ok so i went to a all girls school for 4 years. dont know if i mentioned that here before, but i think its a large part of why dont know how to communicate with guys i find attractive.

its like i skipped this fundemental period of learning how to do this. i feel like you learn most of that in high school. regular high schools, where there are actually guys as well as girls attending classes.

its really frustrating when i come across a guy and dont know what to about it. im shy to begin with but i generally have no experience with this ****. one decent boyfriend who im still on good terms with, the other ones in jail, and the rest were drunken hookups when i was 16 (and even then we are not talking about a lot of guys). so thats what im working with. ****ing clueless with all this.

i went to buy a pack of cigarettes today and the place was empty other than me and the cashier and this guy was just gorgeous. i actually hesitated in the doorway for a second there. and i just didnt know how to communicate. i was all fumbling. forgot to give him my id at first and then once he got it he was staring at it, probably trying to figure out if its real or not because i dont look 18 (im usually told i look about 15). soo thats discouraging. i still tried to start conversation. something about how hot it was outside idk. and he just like smiled, and he rested both hands at the counter, looked at me, didnt say anything at all and didnt seem have any intention of repsonding. so i felt like an asshole and did the whole 'have a good day~*~*~*' thing and left.



so im not desperate enough for 'hes just no that into you/dating for dummies' lit.

but some advice on how to get my **** together would be nice, or something.. idk.

well... i don't know, i had this same problem with girls for year... I guess it kind of hard to me going after a girl at a bar now or any other place. Eventhough, i'm more social than i used to be. I think the key is just don't asking ourself many question before talking... Just talk and see where it leads to. People who aren't interested in you, just ignored you most of the time, you know?

One of my friend, he got in this same situation about girls. Because the other day, I said to him "you know, girls got the same problem. The world is just not fair for anybody." and he said "shut up"... I guess I got to make him read this thread...
Someone said to him "you should go see some girls." So, he get a date with someone really 'hot' for him. And he thought he wasn't at her level. So, by the time she got to the atm, he just drive away. (that story is funny. i'm not cool to write that one in here though...)

I think, what's hard is to find someone proper for us. Most of the time, we get a hang on people not suit for us.
Never underestimate your potential. It is possible to find anyone we can be with. The most difficult part is to stay with that person.

Goodluck and keep us to date. I guess this thread will go really wrong by now...

Welcome to my world.

The solution is alcohol, I do very well with men with a few drinks. Enough to get you chatty, but not enough to get you raped.

Or you could the other thing I do well, which is to get guys to want you via the net. That's surprisingly easy.

Some people are just better at giving good chat than others. It doesn't make you a failure at love, though. It's kind of hard to locate that specific line of charisma if you never had it. But maybe you make up for it in other ways?

Also, idk if many people who ARE actually good at making moves would have the nuts to just ask out a stranger while buying smokes.

It's much easier to meet people via mutual friends. Or even not mutual friends. It's also easier to talk to strangers when you're not relying on yourself and them to do all the talking.

i feel like this is quite the common problem?