At the end of the day, looks are everything.
You will get further in life, get more things for free and will get listened to more if you're attractive.
I like to think of myself as a decent person, that makes time for everyone, but I have to admit, I give special attention to people I think are cute. If everyone was honest with themselves I think we would all agree.
It's kind of harsh but true. Just a thought.

I agree with you, but I also think that what makes someone attractive is determined by other factors too. Like if someone is super hot but is a fascist pig like fuck I'm being kind to them. I wouldn't want anything to do with them anyway.

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I'll pull out my heart and I'll feed it to anyone.

I think theres over emphasis on this...yeah people might have better first impressions if you're better looking, but I don't agree that you can get more for free or go further...thats bullshit, if you're more confident that might work in your favor but not just looks alone. On that note I want to say i have a quite plain, not ugly but far from beautiful friend who can get what he wants from almost anybody but thats because he has the unwavering gift of the blag

People are shallow but beauty does not rule the world.

And this is REALLY sad but does anybody else watch vanity lair? This thread reminds me of that.

it's true. i chose my cardiologist solely on his looks.

I fucking HATE vanity lair! Most of them are fug and even if they were truly beautiful.. being a 'self proclaimed' beauty is just un-attractive. I have a friend who, when telling you about a night out of whatever, will say "I looked HOT" and stuff.. and it's just so irritating and makes her look like a prick.

Yes I've seen that show and it's disgusting. The people on it are vile, and I definitely wouldn't want to know any of them, but it just serves as a point that despite their vapid personalities, they are able to manipulate people because of what lies on the surface.
Just for the record, I'm playing devils advocate in this thread, I just think that it's often true that very horrible people that happen to be physically stunning are able to advance themselves in life purely based on their looks.

people are people

But.... I think the two rarely go together, stunning looks and a shit personality. Usually I believe it's the personality that makes, a large part, of looks. I think you can tell if someone is vapid, for instance, and that doesn't emphasize the "right physical proportions" in a positive manner. Looks is more than surface, physicality.

what's this about getting stuff for free.

A lot of my female friends in the past have got countless things for free because of how they look. From simple things like drinks and gig tickets, to clothes, perfumes and dinners, in an attempt to be liked by them or have a chance of getting in there. It happens all the time as an attempt to buy their affection.

I actually think you're bang on there kittykitty and for me that's how I decide whether or not someone is attractive. However, I don't think most people are like this, especially men. For a lot of guys I think a beautfiul girl is a beautiful girl and they will attempt to impress her regardless of whether or not she is an idiot.
I know that's a bit of a sweeping statement but I've just seen it happen so many times.

i'm living in the wrong place then.

a lot of my friends are ridiculously hot and i've never seen any of them get anything for free.

Me either. If I was hot I don't think I would have liked it if people tried to buy my affection anyways

Perhaps it's true in some regard, I think it also depends on what's important to a person in life. Being beautiful is certainly not going to get anyone a good education, for example, and if it does, looks alone most definately won't get one a truly meaningful life. What I want to do with my life certainly won't be helped (or hindered) by looks.

In terms of acquiring things because of looks, in the end it's ultimately a farce; someone who depends on looks to get ahead is going to wind up with one hell of a complex come aging time, and probably comes of as vapid to most of the thinking population.

Furthermore I don't think a girl has to be an exceptional beauty for any of that--I consider myself quite average, but guys do hit on me left and right, offer to pay for stuff, etc but I seldom ever accept any of it, because it seldom seems sincere.

And while it's probably true that to most guys a "beautiful girl is a beautiful girl," the novelty eventually wears off if the girl doesn't have the personality to match it up. Oftentimes girls like that are simply good for fucking, and most guys eventually figure that out.

Girls who are exceptional beauties but have any amount of self-worth won't rely on their looks to get them ahead. And a good sense self-worth can get one much farther than physical beauty, in my experience.

I get a lot of things for free...

i enjoy being something of a gannet, scrounging through the cultural wastes for a giggle but FUCK ME THAT PROGRAMME.

i think that rockandrollbarbie does have a point. in day-to-day life, where stuff IS on first impressions, you do have an advantage if you're good-looking. but kesh is right as well, the higher (and, i suppose, deeper ) you get, the less they matter.

i have a friend like rockandrollbarbie describes: she's the most beautiful person i've ever seen in the flesh, HONESTLY. i am sure the two things are in no way connected but she's also super-confident and that makes her even more appealling. i have lost count of the amount of stuff she's blagged for us while i just stand there looking gormless: drinks, meals, entry to clubs, trainfares..!! i wasn't there for this but it's honestly true - she once managed to charm a security guy at leeds festival into letting her in with no ticket. HONESTLY!!! these things are really fun and i tooootally take avantage of what people are willing to give her because she's gorgeous but she's not going to be able to build a LIFE on this. i hope! she probably will, you know!

i've seen your pictures. either you are lying or you get stuff for free because you put out.

or either you are jealous

And as long as we're on that subject, we are also all prejudiced as well. Not racist, but prejudiced. This statement basically is the same thing as the original post. We form opinions based on prior experiences with people that appear in certain ways.

My question about that is...yeah...so what? That's what human beings do. Until we break past the initial surface impression of someone and reform our initial bias, so what?