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Old 07-25-2006, 04:48 PM
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Cant wait for Hip Hop to die...

Its so true! hip hop has dominated the airwaves for too long. By this, it has completely shut down the doors on what I consider to be "good pop", hence, Madonna or even quality rock bands, which are far and few in between nowadays.

whatever, Im hanging on to my PJ Harvey records...
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Madonna should just abandon the Us and move to Panama.

I think it's so retarded. The US has been invated by ghetto homophobic and mysoginistic music a la Eminem and 50 cent and they don't wanna know about Madonna but she's HUGE everywhere else. Madonna is huge in europe, one album is bigger than the next, she's huge in latin america, I mean she's huge everywhere but she only tours the US and Europe. Most of the dates in the curretn tour are American.

I think she should do like she did with the Girlie Show, have like 3 dates in America and tour the rest of the world and punish those fuckers!!!!!!!!!!!
oh no, it's back. doens't madonna has a restraining order against you?

the markets in europe and north america are extremley different. dance music is embraced overseas where rock and hip hop dominate here. dance music never made it to the mainstream here. i can see why this album is having a hard time on US radio and doing so well elsewhere. radio here is based mainly on genre of music and dance type stations are now few and far between. in the UK and europe radio plays a bit of everything and it's not unheard of hearing dance, rock, rap and pop in the same set.

in fact canada is quite different from the states. any british band will do better here than in the US. even robbie williams does better here than south of our border.

as for touring, she's not palying many american cities, and only 1 canadian. alot of this is due to the fact touring is hard and her shows are not your typical rock concert....they are major productions. it is much easier to set up in a city for 3-4 days, play to a large amount of people and move on. the production costs of transportation must be staggering.
she's also got a family and tours around her kids summer vacations so she can have them near her at all times.

good luck on her coming to panama, we can't get her to toronto half the time.
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Its so true! hip hop has dominated the airwaves for too long. By this, it has completely shut down the doors on what I consider to be "good pop", hence, Madonna or even quality rock bands, which are far and few in between nowadays.

whatever, Im hanging on to my PJ Harvey records...
this is the best post in the whole thread.
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Just like Green Day made their anti Bush album one year after American Life when Madonna and Dixie Chicks took all the heat, and it was then safe for Green Day to be political.

Would they have the balls to be first??? of course not. Only Madonna has them.
madonna fans aren't as fickle as dixie chicks fans. what they did took a alot of courage considering it's ruined their fanbase in america.

do you think middle america cares if madonna hates bush? not at all.
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oh no, it's back. doens't madonna has a restraining order against you?

the markets in europe and north america are extremley different. dance music is embraced overseas where rock and hip hop dominate here. dance music never made it to the mainstream here. i can see why this album is having a hard time on US radio and doing so well elsewhere. radio here is based mainly on genre of music and dance type stations are now few and far between. in the UK and europe radio plays a bit of everything and it's not unheard of hearing dance, rock, rap and pop in the same set.

in fact canada is quite different from the states. any british band will do better here than in the US. even robbie williams does better here than south of our border.

as for touring, she's not palying many american cities, and only 1 canadian. alot of this is due to the fact touring is hard and her shows are not your typical rock concert....they are major productions. it is much easier to set up in a city for 3-4 days, play to a large amount of people and move on. the production costs of transportation must be staggering.
she's also got a family and tours around her kids summer vacations so she can have them near her at all times.

good luck on her coming to panama, we can't get her to toronto half the time.
she'll come here. And I'll be her new Sandy.
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madonna fans aren't as fickle as dixie chicks fans. what they did took a alot of courage considering it's ruined their fanbase in america.

do you think middle america cares if madonna hates bush? not at all.
Before the Chicks took their shot at Bush I really didn't care about them.

Now I have a whole new appreciation for them.
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as for touring, she's not palying many american cities, and only 1 canadian.
huh? shes playing more dates in the US than ALL the shows overseas combined. she even went to US cities she hasnt been to for years.
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It's just you...Europe is playing Get Together 16458337 times a day and Hung Up was I believe the single most played tune on the radio in 2005 in scandinavia. On the other hand, we don't care shit for hip hop over here so it's more of a matter of priority rather than accessibility.
you misunderstood. it's not that the music isn't accessible -- it's catchy as hell. but this thread is talking about 'U.S. Radio'. and there's a strong aversion to uptempo dance music here in the mainstream. disco was hot for one quick minute back in the '70s, and then there was a huge backlash against the style. anything that sounded too much like "techno" was shoved underground, or relegated to alternative airwaves.

that never happened in europe. the discotheque scene got bigger. and continued to thrive throughout the '80s. house/club/disco/dance/techno/trance charted regularly on european airwaves. that's why michael jackson was always a bigger star over there. even when he was the uncoolest possible thing alive here, his albums were selling big in europe.

once in a blue moon a club hit will make it on Top-40 radio. but those are usually only the quirkiest, most attention-grabbing hits... Rednexx, Eiffel 65, Aqua, Tatu. maybe Madonna was trying to (re-)set the precedent back a couple decades, but i don't think her name alone is strong enough revive this trend.
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do you think middle america cares if madonna hates bush? not at all.
no, they just hate her for ruining 'American Pie'. haha
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sorry to post a third time in a row, but, if you even think about it, how is a station supposed to work madonna's new songs into a set without it sounding abnormally out of place?
what are they going to follow her up with? black-eyed peas? nelly furtado?
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sorry to post a third time in a row, but, if you even think about it, how is a station supposed to work madonna's new songs into a set without it sounding abnormally out of place?
what are they going to follow her up with? black-eyed peas? nelly furtado?

haha.

i remember reading in billboard before the album came out that Hung Up was the perfect single because it was something you could stick in between a rap song and a green day song.
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haha.

i remember reading in billboard before the album came out that Hung Up was the perfect single because it was something you could stick in between a rap song and a green day song.
it is?

maybe if you were going for totally random.
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huh? shes playing more dates in the US than ALL the shows overseas combined. she even went to US cities she hasnt been to for years.
I think he just means number of cities, not actual dates. Because although she's doing more dates here, she really didn't go to all that many cities (compared to most artisits who go all over)
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huh? shes playing more dates in the US than ALL the shows overseas combined. she even went to US cities she hasnt been to for years.
cities not dates. remember, in europe she's playing many stadiums to larger crowds, hences arenas in the US and more actual dates in each city.

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I think he just means number of cities, not actual dates. Because although she's doing more dates here, she really didn't go to all that many cities (compared to most artisits who go all over)
she hasn't doen a proper tour in north america since the 80's.
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Get Together is currently #10 in single sales in the U.S. Album sales are healthy and her shows are selling out. And from what I know of MTV, they still love her. U.S. radio is clueless.
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Madonna should just abandon the Us and move to Panama.

I think it's so retarded. The US has been invaded by ghetto homophobic and mysoginistic music a la Eminem and 50 cent and they don't wanna know about Madonna but she's HUGE everywhere else. Madonna is huge in europe, one album is bigger than the next, she's huge in latin america, I mean she's huge everywhere but she only tours the US and Europe. Most of the dates in the curretn tour are American.

I think she should do like she did with the Girlie Show, have like 3 dates in America and tour the rest of the world and punish those fuckers!!!!!!!!!!!
agreed somewhat...

what it is is that the United States has become hyperconservative.
Bush and all...they couldn't lick him, so...

very very repressed, and it shows in pop culture.
it's a throwback to Reagan era values...
greed and conformity, the status quo...

what happens next? ClearChannel are glommy fascists,
beastieboys and lenny kravitz had antiwar stuff that came out
in '03. by that time, though megacorporation clearchannel had bought up ALMOST ALL RADIO,

they are probush

so voila! nothing new could get out.

madonna's somewhat subversive actually, she doesn't project sexual guilt,
but permissiveness, and now things are so conservative...
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