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06-29-2008, 06:34 PM
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| | | defo mels worst single by far was I Want Candy.... shudder | 
07-01-2008, 12:49 PM
|  | Stay (I Missed You) | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Houston, Texas
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| | | i think she's highly underrated for her later work. don't get me wrong, her debut was okay, but i think she's really pushed and gotten some good work with Reason, Beautiful Intentions and This Time.
my favorites are definitely:
Carolyna
Better Alone
Melt
Next Best Superstar
First Day of My Life
The Moment You Believe
unfortunately, i haven't had the benefit of actually buying/downloading her albums, so the singles are my favorites.
and yes, the I Want Candy cover was a wrong move. | 
07-01-2008, 12:55 PM
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07-01-2008, 12:57 PM
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| | | yup Beautiful Intentions is her best record by far. The DVD she did was pretty cool too. Also some of her best songs were B-sides also... I do think that she did a good thing by going down the rock route. I loved spikey haired punk chick Mel... the video for Goin' Down was class... but funny at the same time | 
07-01-2008, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dollie_midget | haha! i wish i'd brought my jump drive to the library, but i have no computer right now. i'll have to come back. thanks!! Quote:
Originally Posted by AshMcAuliffe yup Beautiful Intentions is her best record by far. The DVD she did was pretty cool too. Also some of her best songs were B-sides also... I do think that she did a good thing by going down the rock route. I loved spikey haired punk chick Mel... the video for Goin' Down was class... but funny at the same time | really? of the few listens i've given to all of her albums, i REALLY, like REALLY liked This Time. but Beautiful Intentions, no doubt. | 
07-01-2008, 01:10 PM
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| | | This Time was just an ok-ish attempt at making something remotely mainstream again to sell.. Which never worked unfortunately as there is a few good songs on there. I just dont like the songwriter shes been working with called Adam Argyle... his songs are turning her into a MOR singer. She needs to get back to the writing group she used to write with namely Thornalley, Munday, Gallagher, Nowels and Orbit. | 
07-01-2008, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AshMcAuliffe This Time was just an ok-ish attempt at making something remotely mainstream again to sell.. Which never worked unfortunately as there is a few good songs on there. I just dont like the songwriter shes been working with called Adam Argyle... his songs are turning her into a MOR singer. She needs to get back to the writing group she used to write with namely Thornalley, Munday, Gallagher, Nowels and Orbit. | i just wish she could get her stuff released in America. she needs to work with some producers who make good music here.  | 
07-01-2008, 01:15 PM
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| | | She had it made when she was recording with Rick Rubin and Rick Nowels. But hey... shes been doing more gigs over in the States and Canada recently than she has done in the UK... She's gone totally underground in England... She's massive in Europe still but i won't give up on her... I want her to do another rock record. I dont know what it is with her... she just doesn't seem to have the courage of her convictions regarding doing full rock music... she says she prefers being a rock artist but always reverts back to pop after doing something rockier | 
07-01-2008, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by AshMcAuliffe She had it made when she was recording with Rick Rubin and Rick Nowels. But hey... shes been doing more gigs over in the States and Canada recently than she has done in the UK... She's gone totally underground in England... She's massive in Europe still but i won't give up on her... I want her to do another rock record. I dont know what it is with her... she just doesn't seem to have the courage of her convictions regarding doing full rock music... she says she prefers being a rock artist but always reverts back to pop after doing something rockier | too true, she was selling out all of her small shows here while doing the Spice Girls Reunion Tour. that and Carolyna got release in Canada, but i'm not sure if the album has been released there yet. but still, with all the positive public response, we still get nothing but a few live shows here in the US. she's the only SG to have a successful single in the US, so i don't know why we only got her first album when almost all the other girls have had more than 1 album released here. blah. | 
07-01-2008, 01:21 PM
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| | | Its harder for Mel as she runs her own label now and distribution deals cost money.. she has stable connections to release her records in Europe and Japan from her Spice Girl days but the American labels and distributors are not as quick to sell her albums due to her being an indie label | 
07-01-2008, 01:22 PM
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| | | that's because we got crap like Lil Wayne or whomever the fuck charting at #1. | 
07-01-2008, 01:26 PM
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| | | Yup... But she's consistently selling records which is a good thing as the more sales the more likely she'll make another record. She needs to dig out all her connections in the US and maybe go to the States to record the album and get a deal. If she plugs away over there she'll do really well... Its annoying that British female singers like fucking Leona Lewis and Natasha Bedingfield do soooo well over there and decent singers don't... says alot about the record buying public over there i guess... And officially Mel C is the most successful female artist what with most number 1's etc | 
07-01-2008, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AshMcAuliffe She had it made when she was recording with Rick Rubin and Rick Nowels. But hey... shes been doing more gigs over in the States and Canada recently than she has done in the UK... She's gone totally underground in England... She's massive in Europe still but i won't give up on her... I want her to do another rock record. I dont know what it is with her... she just doesn't seem to have the courage of her convictions regarding doing full rock music... she says she prefers being a rock artist but always reverts back to pop after doing something rockier | I like her doing the more rock stuff, too. I think the reason she doesn't go all the way is she probably thinks that a lot of the fans of the Spice Girls are interested in her and if she just keep doing rock, they wouldn't like her or buy her stuff anymore.
I personally like her music, but I really don't like the Spice Girls.
That happens a lot with solo artists who leave bands. On the one hand, they want to try something different but they are afraid to lose the audience they had with the band so they feel compelled to do some music similiar to the old band. | 
07-01-2008, 08:41 PM
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| | | I tried soooo hard to ignore this thread, but it keeps coming back to the top so I just have to respond.
Did none of you notice that she's a FUCKING SPICE GIRL?? They are a plague on music as a whole, and they are no better as solo artists.
Especially Mel C, who tries to be rock, tries to be a lesbo, but just ends up being a washed up Spice Girl (as proven by her return to the band).
I'm sorry, I tried to keep this rant to myself, but was driven to it by the continuation of this thread. The Spice Girls killed the mid-to-late 90s, and it upsets me that so many KR fans seem to like one of them.
But hey, if that's your thing then go for it xx | 
07-01-2008, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TimGuy I tried soooo hard to ignore this thread, but it keeps coming back to the top so I just have to respond.
Did none of you notice that she's a FUCKING SPICE GIRL?? They are a plague on music as a whole, and they are no better as solo artists.
Especially Mel C, who tries to be rock, tries to be a lesbo, but just ends up being a washed up Spice Girl (as proven by her return to the band).
I'm sorry, I tried to keep this rant to myself, but was driven to it by the continuation of this thread. The Spice Girls killed the mid-to-late 90s, and it upsets me that so many KR fans seem to like one of them.
But hey, if that's your thing then go for it xx | Why is that such a big problem? Lots of artists start out with some band that people see as cheesy or uncredible. Alanis did teen dance/pop before doing Jagged Little Pill. Why can't artists move on and not be forever judged by their past.
She actually was resistant to the Spice Girls reunion. She didn't want to do it at first, but the others really wanted to. She wouldn't want to be the person to let them down, since they couldn't have successfully done it without the original members.
And it's not like she went back to them permanently. The Spice Girls reunion was just a temporary thing to say goodbye and thanks to their fans.
I don't really see how the Spice Girls ruined music. There was just a harmless pop band. I don't like their music, but they did no real harm. They actually opened the doors for lots of women to be successful. Before that, everything was about boy singing groups, not all girl groups. | 
07-02-2008, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TimGuy I tried soooo hard to ignore this thread, but it keeps coming back to the top so I just have to respond.
Did none of you notice that she's a FUCKING SPICE GIRL?? They are a plague on music as a whole, and they are no better as solo artists.
Especially Mel C, who tries to be rock, tries to be a lesbo, but just ends up being a washed up Spice Girl (as proven by her return to the band).
I'm sorry, I tried to keep this rant to myself, but was driven to it by the continuation of this thread. The Spice Girls killed the mid-to-late 90s, and it upsets me that so many KR fans seem to like one of them.
But hey, if that's your thing then go for it xx | the spice girls killed the mid 90's? give it up. the mid to late 90's sucked cos' so many bad records were made.
she's never tried to be a lesbo...or rock...she's made music she wants to make and i give her credit for that. at least she ain't claiming to be the next bob dylan, yet cannot write a record with out drama ala courtney love.
__________________ nothing builds character quite like sodomy. | 
07-02-2008, 06:08 AM
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| | | The Spice Girls did NOT kill mid-90's music... they actually brought the last century to life. People had'nt been so invigorated by a band for years and especially with them being a girl group... Shock horror... years before them girls were seen as inferior artists in the pop arena. The Spice Girls actually opened the door to female pop singers and bands to do well and be credible and taken seriously. I'm not a fan of the Spice Girls music but they did a lot of good.
And Melanie C does not deserve the shit she gets from narrow minded musical elitists. She went with her heart to do the music she wanted to do unlike the rest of the Spice Girls who resorted to doing music by numbers... sticking to the formula. Mel went against the grain. She was actually the catalyst herself for all these newbie pop singers go rock thing namely Pink. Alanis was a pop singer before she went rock but most people dont give her shit over her musical past. And Courtney Love herself wanted a "Raspberrys" style band... an unashamed POP group!!! It pisses me off that when a pop singer goes rock shes classed as a FAKE and if a rock star goes pop theyre classed as a SELLOUT. Its a joke.
And at the end of the day you can't deny Melanie C... shes Britains most successful female solo artist... stick that in your crack pipe and smoke it! | 
07-02-2008, 03:49 PM
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| | So as you probably guessed from the 2.41am timestamp, I was kinda drunk on my last post... I stand by it, but wouldn't normally have been that abrasive! If you wanna like Mel C or the Spice Girls then by all means do, I just don't. I do, however, now feel the need to counter a few of the outraged responses to my original message: Quote:
Originally Posted by AshMcAuliffe years before them girls were seen as inferior artists in the pop arena. | Um, what about The Bangles? Bananarama? The Go-Gos? Shakespear's Sister? Eternal? TLC? En Vogue? There were plenty of hugely successful female groups before the Spice Girls came along. Yes, none were as all-conquering as the Spice Girls, but there was a pretty substantial set of very successful girl-bands before them. And that's just the 80s and 90s... Quote:
Originally Posted by AshMcAuliffe And at the end of the day you can't deny Melanie C... shes Britains most successful female solo artist... stick that in your crack pipe and smoke it! | That just can't be true. Under any measure of success there have been countless more successful British female solo artists. Off the top of my head I'll pluck out Dusty Springfield, Shirley Bassey, Amy Winehouse, Annie Lennox, Kate Bush...
In fact I think I'd even consider Emma Bunton to be more successful than Mel C. In the past five years Mel C has only had one top 10 single (Next Best Superstar, #10 in April 2005). Her last album peaked at #24 on the album chart. In the same period, Emma Bunton has had 4 top-ten singles and her album got to #7. Both have had 2 number one singles in their solo careers (I Turn To You and Never Be The Same Again vs. What Took You So Long and What I Am). In fact, Geri Halliwell had 4 so was arguably more successful than either of the above.
My point is that agreeing to disagree about somebody's musical talents and merits is fine, but you can't structure an argument around unfounded comments without doing your research! Right, I'm off to find my crack pipe... | 
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