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Old 04-23-2008, 10:34 PM
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EMI Says You Can't Store Your Music Files Online

Bad Company: EMI Says You Can't Store Your Music Files Online
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Today, MP3tunes' CEO Michael Robertson sent out an email to all users of the online music backup and place-shifting service MP3tunes.com, asking them to help publicize EMI's ridiculous and ignorant lawsuit against the company. EMI believes that consumers aren't allowed to store their music files online, and that MP3tunes is violating copyright law by providing a backup service. (And we're not using a euphemism here—it really is a backup/place-shifting service and not a file sharing site in disguise.)

In March, a court told EMI it couldn't demand that MP3tunes turn over all the music stored by customers on its servers. Robertson writes on his corporate blog that the request is absurd:

"Files are not MP3tunes' possessions any more than the contents of a safety deposit box are owned by the bank that houses them. The storage provided by MP3tunes is the user's own space. A Locker is empty when someone opens an account and that customer decides what files are placed into their Locker. All files are stored at the request of the user. People who choose to utilize remote storage should be guaranteed the same level of privacy they have for the files stored on their local hard disk."

Here's part of Robertson's email from earlier today:

"As you may be aware, the major record label EMI has sued MP3tunes, claiming our service is illegal. You can read about the case here. Much is at stake — if you don't have the right to store your own music online then you won't have the right to store ebooks, videos and other digital products as well. The notion of ownership in the 21st century will evaporate. The idea of ownership is important to me and I want to make sure I have that right and my kids do too."

"Court Ruling Denies EMI Access to Millions of Personal MP3 Files" [MIchael Robertson]
In other words, major labels are still jerks.
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well, the consumers say they can store it there.
so, i'd like to see EMI try to get their sass on with the lonley handful of people who even bother to buy over-priced major-label records.

it doesn't bode well for them.
the music industry is so whiny and arbitrary. i mean, the oil industry could have pitched a MUCH bigger fit about their situation, but instead they chose to change what they sell (fuel) and how they sell and market it (hybrids, biodiesel, ethanol, etc).
and music industry is stupidly stubborn, as if they assume the public will come back around.

but no no, we're done.
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There's an opening for King Cnut in the music industry. He had a cool name too.
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I'm reminded of the Sex Pistols song EMI. EMI..goodbye.
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I think this every time I see one of these articles. On one hand I can see where they're coming from because these sites are so overt - P2P networks are like swapping stolen goods under a pub table whereas upload sites are like walking around with a t-shirt on saying "ASK ME ABOUT THE CAR STEREOS I'M GIVING AWAY" (do people actually still nick car stereos? I hope I'm not sounding all fuddy-duddy here). But actions like this just draw attention to sites that people might not realise exists if they can't work sharing programs.
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P2P networks are like swapping stolen goods under a pub table whereas upload sites are like walking around with a t-shirt on saying "ASK ME ABOUT THE CAR STEREOS I'M GIVING AWAY"
You're right, but upload sites also are useful for storing your files if you're getting a new computer and don't want to buy a whole bunch of compact discs. It's not as if they have no legitimate purposes. If it wasn't for sites like yousendit I would have lost all of my music collection instead of half of it. If you buy something you should be able to use it on ANY machine you want and not have it be a big hassle to put it on another computer.
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Erm, it would take hours on most people's connections to upload a CD-R's worth of content, not even accounting for throttling, other transactions and the like. I know people do use these sites for backups and innocent transfers but let's face it somewhere called 'MP3tunes.com' is going to be 99% straight-out copyright infringement.

But, as always, EMI need more carrot and less stick - positive reasons to move away from copying and other revenue streams rather than bleating about services that'll cost more than they're worth shutting down.
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EMI Says You Can't Store Your Music Files Online
Well, the courts say you can. So go fuck yourself, Guy Hands, I'm not paying $25 for a CD. It's really not going to happen.

And those artists out there who are on major labels complaining about lay offs can cut back on being financial toilets themselves.
Unless you're driving your own biobus and paying for your own crack I don't want to hear from your useless ass.
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