errr sorry, that should read "smart bands with dumb fans"

like that nirvana "in bloom" thing. but i don't care what he says, i still think nirvana was too wussy for most thuggy date rapists & too uncouth for their slicker counterpart. i love that the creep in clueless was into the cranberries. that was very astute.

the most scared i've ever been in my sex exploits (excluding fear of disease, i'm referring to fear of being drugged/raped/hacked up) was in a car with this married guy, looking for a parking lot to fuck in, a really quiet guy, listening to a soft rock station and he starts humming along to a sarah mclachlan song.
this feeling came over me that he would still be humming while disposing of my body. anyway, we still fucked and everything was fine.
i was really naive at the time, like probably one of the first times i was with a guy because i remember asking "am i going too fast?" HAHAHAHAHAHA. we're in the fucking home depot parking lot, he just wants to blow his wad in a guy's ass before going home to his wife & i'm playing it as the deflowering of some bitch on dawson's creek. i'm such a fucking loser.
also, i told him i'd never had sex before which was a lie. so afterwards he goes "well you're not a virgin anymore" and winks.

anyway, i think rage against the machine is the ultimate band for thuggish date rapists.
luckily their politics are pretty bullshit anyway, because it's not like anybody is actually listening to their message.

black flag is another one. smart guys who played to a bunch of retards.

is system of a down respectable?

then there are bands that think they're smart, but aren't. i imagine the average green day fan is smarter than the average member of green day.
same with bad religion. same with pearl jam.

i was at a patti smith show, and the crowd cheered to whatever hippy, bullshit she ran her mouth about.
she lectured us to stand up and pressure the government to get out of iraq. only it's canada and we're not in iraq.

i imagine r.e.m. attracts a lot of smart people. not just blathering academic wastes, but architects and great mechanics who are also really good at jeopardy.
r.e.m. is a smart band. peter is a genius. mike is like the dad in fifties sitcoms before tv fathers started being portrayed as jackasses.
and even stipe comes across way less flaky than you might imagine. maybe it's a south thing.

ani difranco. she's a sortof brilliant writer, but man... her fans...
SO predictable.

Have to agree with Black Flag, some of their fans who i've had brushes with are straight up shit. Most are not too familar with most of their back catalogue other than "TV Party," as well...

Pavement fans in the 1990s were pretty bad on occasion as well, I remember getting in arguments with quite a few over some minute shit. I remember one fan literally yelling at me because she didn't agree with my choice of "In the Mouth a Desert" being one of their best songs. I mean, she became VERY upset. I think I told her something to the effect of: SHUT THE FUCK UP, NO ONE CARES THAT MUCH

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Well, I think Pink Floyd is just a given, eh?

tori amos - just a little
they're so fuckin annoying and they always correct you about the meaning of her songs which is kind of stupid because her songs are lyrically impossible and they defend beekeeper, an album that suhuuucks.

oh wait, smart bands. have no idea if tori is smart or just.. crazy.

Neutral Milk Hotel?

Just the first thing that popped in my head. I just remember reading this story about all the weirdos that were obsessed with Jeff Mangum.

Meh, I don't really know.

Oh well AS OF NOW the CURRENT Courtney Love fans are quite obnoxious. The original Hole fans are, of course, cool but these Courtney tards on her myspace are strange.

Definitely agree on the Bad Religion thing.

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disagree. Greg Graffin has a masters in geology and a PhD in something like evolutionary biology. And Gurewitz started Epitaph, which has been a very successful record label. I know that doesn't necessarily require brains but I don't think you could be a complete idiot and keep it going for this long. (20 years)

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Haha, yes definitely Tori Amos. I don't even tell people that I'm a fan of Tori because I don't want people to think that I'm a tampon ~*faerie*~ or a cutter or something likewise lame.

Midnight Oil. But then again Peter Garrett is a sell out anyway.

err, on drugs?

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I quite agree. I remember when I first came here to KR, which was only about four years ago, and just had my mind blown with the level of intellect some people displayed, and how well-read people here were. It's still like that here to some extent, mind you.

But the people Courtney attracts now seem like they'd struggle to string your average sentence together, never mind have intelligent discussions about shit.

I'm not saying I'm one of those intelligent types myself, but it's a pretty good example.


I think any band/artist that gets popular enough will end up attracting dipshits for fans. It's a matter of proportion, there just happen to be enough numpties around, and the odds are if you're selling more than a couple of million, you're going to have sold albums to some real numbskulls out there.

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Il se met à pleuvoir. L'homme n'ouvre pas son parapluie et l'autre lui demande pourquoi.
- Parce que ça ne servirait à rien, lui répond son ami. Il est plein de trous.
- Alors, pourquoi l'as-tu pris?
- Parce que je ne pensais pas qu'il pleuvrait.

bob marley & dave matthews... which is to say nothing about the intelligence of the musicians themselves... but step onto any college campus in america and behold the stupidity of the fans.

Red Hot Chili Peppers

I used to be a big big fan before Californication (actually even some of that album i can stomach) but the people that jumped on the band wagon at that point...good lord...i hate the crowds at their shows now...and i hate a lot of the new music actually. Back in '95 they had such an eclectic audience...buncha fun loving freaks. Now they got drunken fuckwits who listen to Virgin Radio and think that Maroon 5 are edgy...damn them all...

Maroon Five, edgy?
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what a fucking whiney thread. so idiots like your sacred music, quit being precious. i hope all these bands work out the rapist quotient of their royalties and donate it to women's shelters

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