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Old 05-03-2007, 02:12 PM
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Dissertation Help... What genre is Marilyn Manson?

Hey - I wanted to get a general consensus: what musical genre - BROADLY - would you say Marilyn Manson fits into?

I'm writing my dissertation on the development of representation of musical subcultures in the British press from the 50s to the present, and am focussing on rap/hip hop, emo (and goth with it) and on Marilyn Manson. Now, I know he could potentially fit into goth, but what I'm focussing on is the spurious linkage of him and his music to incidents such as Columbine...

Plus most of the research I've done on goth says that he's not goth, and I follow that way of thinking, I guess. The "goth" I'm focssing on, as it were, is the more romantic, literary, lovestruck, Cure sort of goth...

Any ideas? I don't want really really obscure classification, by the way - hence the capital letter BROADLY, which I'll put in again for emphasis...
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alternative metal. it's a bit sucky i know
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Alternative metal works for me.

The articles I've analysed have often spoken about "metal fans" but I'd be tempted to categorise that as "heavy metal". Which sounds ridiculous, and as outdated as "ghettoblaster", I know.
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Alternative metal/rock but the album Mechanical Animals had a glam rock feel to it.
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i'd just say alt rock. too many people put him in the "industrial" category where they DO NOT fit. Same goes for NIN.
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I say it's Nu metal

Along with Zob Rombie. Horses don't count.
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i'd just say alt rock. too many people put him in the "industrial" category where they DO NOT fit. Same goes for NIN.
I'm so to hear somebody else say that. I've had that argument so many times...

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I say it's Nu metal
As much as Manson sucks, I'm not sure he sucks enough to be considered nu metal.
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I say it's Nu metal

Along with Zob Rombie. Horses don't count.
nu metal was coined for bands like korn, limp bizkit and those types of bands, manson was around and popular before that silly stuff took over.
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nu metal was coined for bands like korn, limp bizkit and those types of bands, manson was around and popular before that silly stuff took over.
not to mention he sounds NOTHING LIKE NU METAL considering nu metal has rapping in it??

manson is alt rock.
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shock rock, rock. not heavy enough to be metal, not alternative enough to be alternative, not goth at all. maybe even pop since his fanbase is mostly little mall goth girls
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shock rock, rock. not heavy enough to be metal, not alternative enough to be alternative, not goth at all. maybe even pop since his fanbase is mostly little mall goth girls
i am most certainly not a mall goth girl and last time i was at a manson concert, most were teenage guys or fat girls with fake red hair and lots of mascara.
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As much as Manson sucks, I'm not sure he sucks enough to be considered nu metal.
He definitely doesn't fit into what my idea of nu metal is...

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shock rock, rock. not heavy enough to be metal, not alternative enough to be alternative, not goth at all. maybe even pop since his fanbase is mostly little mall goth girls
I'm not saying "shock rock" in an academic study. It's too tabloid. No offence or anything.
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