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Originally Posted by Ophiel Ophiuci  While I don't know if I can condone tokenism in music (not that this is necessarily what you're doing), I guess there's stuff like cLOUDDEAD which is just white and nerdy and underground enough to appeal to white underground nerds.
Me and a mate were talking about this in relation to Timbaland. White folk don't seem to get that hip-hop doesn't have to be commercially unviable to be any good. Timbaland gets props from black fans of the genre, but white guys with nerd glasses and Jewfros and backpacks who are trying way too hard can't see past the record sales to the really awesome music he makes.
In summary: go buy/download So Addictive by Missy Elliot. It's fucking incredible. |
I wasnt trying to make it "tokenism" it just seems a lot of times, I just dig getting people into different kinds of music than they've been exposed to. These are tunes I've played for relative hip hop n00bs and its this kind of stuff and theyve gotten into, often leading the seek out more hip hop they can enjoy. Most white indie rock / alternative kids just know Beastie Boys and thats the only hip hop stuff theyve heard enough and like.
and yeah Timbaland is a total creative madman and has basically been able to rebuild or build people's careers. Nelly Furtado is awesome but lets face it, she would not be back in the spotlight if it wasnt the for the ridiculously catchy tunes Timbaland was able to craft for her. Missy, Justin and Nelly all basically owe a big chunk of their careers to Timbaland.
As far as there being a style of underground hip hop for the white kid sect (atmosphere, etc etc)....I'm sure there are tons. Lots of stuff on the Def Jux label probably, but I honestly don't really listen to that stuff very often.
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