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Old 10-16-2006, 09:21 PM
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Would AS have sold more if it was a Hole record?

Just a thought I had. I mean, in chart/sales terms albums live and die on the "swinging voters", not the die-hards, and there would have been more goodwill toward "Hole" than "Courtney Love" from randoms. Their previous album had gone Top 10. I always thought AS sort of came across, even in reviews, as being perceived a bit of a "Courtney freaks only" purchase. Hole's previous album was more "latest release from a fairly big act".

I know if she had kept the Hole name and operated the band like a franchise with studio gimps in the other roles it'd be "a bit Simply Red" - or worse, "a bit Guns'n'Roses" - but I wonder if people would have been better disposed towards the record? Was Hole a brand worth knocking on the head, even if it was without Eric?

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Old 10-16-2006, 10:16 PM
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Just a thought I had. I mean, in chart/sales terms albums live and die on the "swinging voters", not the die-hards, and there would have been more goodwill toward "Hole" than "Courtney Love" from randoms. Their previous album had gone Top 10. I always thought AS sort of came across, even in reviews, as being perceived a bit of a "Courtney freaks only" purchase. Hole's previous album was more "latest release from a fairly big act".

I know if she had kept the Hole name and operated the band like a franchise with studio gimps in the other roles it'd be "a bit Simply Red" - or worse, "a bit Guns'n'Roses" - but I wonder if people would have been better disposed towards the record? Was Hole a brand worth knocking on the head, even if it was without Eric?

Meh. Musings.
I think if she had Eric & Company than the record would have turned out much different. Not the material so much (the stuff from Courtney at least) but the production and direction I think would have been much different. I always imagined Hole going in the direction that Courtney is going in now, a more subdued, Bob Dylan-esque record. I think they were on the route of self-production (or produced solely by Eric) with the sound of Drag and Baby Blue.

But to answer your question, yes it probably would have sold more I'm guessing.
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Old 10-16-2006, 10:17 PM
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It's a sucky thing to say but i admit i would have bought it if it had been filed under Hole instead of Courtney Love. I would have been dubious of Hole sans Eric but yeah, i still would have taken the bait. I love Clove but i don't know, i'm just not really interested in solo music from her. I still have only heard one track from AS and that was because i happened to catch the video on tv.
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I think if she had Eric & Company than the record would have turned out much different. Not the material so much (the stuff from Courtney at least) but the production and direction I think would have been much different. I always imagined Hole going in the direction that Courtney is going in now, a more subdued, Bob Dylan-esque record. I think they were on the route of self-production (or produced solely by Eric) with the sound of Drag and Baby Blue.

But to answer your question, yes it probably would have sold more I'm guessing.
Interesting. I was imagining AS "Hole" as just Courtney and ring-ins, but naturally I would have preferred that they had all kissed and made up. Or at least Courtney and Eric.
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Old 10-16-2006, 10:23 PM
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Interesting. I was imagining AS "Hole" as just Courtney and ring-ins, but naturally I would have preferred that they had all kissed and made up. Or at least Courtney and Eric.
That is just my fantasy.

If Courtney would have kept the Hole franchise it would have probably only featured Patty. I doubt it would differ drastically from the original America's Sweetheart.
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